About Bumping

So the two ships pass through each other?

Not a big fan of Elite Dangerous, but the bumping mechanics of it are far more believable.

Too many mechanics in EvE are either there “because its a game” or “they cant do better”.

Unfortunately there is a more believable better, its called damage. But eh I guess every product has a shelf life.

Technically works, but is an inelegant solution.

  1. Manually flying to bump would not involve the “approach” command, and hence no suspect flag.
  2. The 10s scram to prevent MWD is a very artificial restriction.

Cant answer for AG, but Id expect green ships could bump, but it would not interfere with aligning.


I would prefer mechanics of diminishing returns on repeated bumping and/or ramming damage depending on nominal mass and velocity of the two colliding ships, respectively.

On the part of ramming damage model, I think the current bump physics model can largely be translated into damage, as proportional to both rammer and rammed. Ie: The harder a ship gets rammed, causing a bump (of scaling magnitude), the greater/lesser the damage to both vessels, as calculated against the static mass of both ships.

This would emulate, for example, a frigate impacting on a freighter with great velocity, but low nominal mass, causing catastrophic damage to the frigate, very little if any, damage to the freighter, and zero bump.

Ie: It would be like attempting to ram a cargo freighter with a small outboard motorboat. The small motorboat would just splatter/disintegrate on impact, not damage the freighter, nor cause any deviation in its course.

The nominal mass between different ship classes in EVE is quite substantial.

Bumping isn’t going away anytime soon lol
Stop crying so hard about it :joy::joy::joy::joy:

Changing bumping, is not doing away with it.

As to crying, if bumping is changed, would you shed some tears? :wink:
Im seeing a lot of tears in your emojis, btw.
8 yummy tears right there.

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You wrote that much just to say, 'suck it freighter pilots because i love bumping".

{Oh, i forgot you also put in a lot of misleading and some blatantly untrue statements i guess that is where all that filler in your statement came from.}

Stop your insult.
I genuinely don’t understand ONE culture in Eve. So I don’t understand why I would foresee the implication of such a modification, within all the cultures that exist in the game - which most of them I am not aware of. Contrary of you, I don’t consider that everybody who has a different opinion from mine is stupid, nor that my point of view on the world is the only one that makes sense, mister egocenter.

I don’t know what is the “overall attitude”, everybody has a different attitude. You are using terms that need to be specifically restricted in their meaning in order for your sentence to make a sense - and since you don’t do that, I assume that you are not aware of this actual broad meaning, so basically we can’t have a discussion. Thus I don’t even try to answer anything but “I don’t understand your question”, because well that’s how I feel.

I’m sorry that it hurts you to the point of insulting me.

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AG, dont bite the bait.
Its the old “tell us exactly with 100% accuracy and foresight what the result will be for “culture” etc yadda yadda”

Then they will turn around and say “you cant predict the effect of the changes with 100% accuracy and foresight, so you are wrong, and your suggestion is stupid”.

Teckos will run his usual “you cant predict emergent content or player behavior”, whereas paradoxically refusing to acknowledge that that is not an impediment to change, and that emergent content and adapting in player behavior is a good thing.

I don’t think that’s the case.
I think they have a (correct maybe) point about my idea and they don’t want to explain it, because they don’t want to accept being potentially wrong.
So they are affirming there is something I should foresee that I don’t. In a closed, insulting and dishonest fashion - because well, explaining your opinion with respect and patience is too mainstream.

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Alright, leave the bumping as it is, smart pilots know how to avoid it, others support the economy.

But mainly… Max Singularity fanfest explanation - PEG.

Totally love his theory became lore.

Edit: grammar

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Did you ask @Max_Singularity yet?

I have the feeling you don’t want to because you know I’m right :smile:
I already see tour ego being shattered by the answer :joy::joy::joy:

I asked the guy that asked that, his own questions.
But I’m not holding my breath for an answer.
If he does, it will be either:
-I asked AG first
-Its not my suggestion, I dont have to answer on it.

Yes, as I said above they want you to make predictions, which as predictions cannot be verified. Then they will jump on that. Ive seen it happen dozens of times before.

You are being baited.

His theory does not explain how a ship impacting with a space object, such as an asteroid, that has no PEG field, does not cause damage or bump the object.

Lol I love how you suddenly change your argument to avoid the main subject :joy::joy::joy::wink:

So obtuse and dense, black matter has nothing on you :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:

It shows his theory is not complete, or unequivocal.

16 tears this time. Yum yum!

PS: What is “black matter”? How is it dense or obtuse?

Black matter is, in theory, the most dense thing in the universe as we know it.

And tears of laughter lmao
You know I’m right about ship on ship so you turn your argument to fit your little story

Ships bumping asteroids goes in the same category as ships clipping through planets, moons and stars

Aka the basket of it happens so whatever
Also in that same category are atmosphere-less planets full of life, and you posting on the forums :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::wink:

Oh?
According to which theory?
I cant find any reference to “black matter”.
Cite your source.

Ships dont clip through asteroids, unless in warp.

An atmosphere is not a condition for life.
Its been shown that many forms of life can survive in a vacuum, as it has been shown that many forms of life can survive around gaseous ocean vents. Anaerobic organisms do not require oxygen.

Humans can’t live without an atmosphere

Holy density
You have to argue with everything don’t you?
Why don’t you dedicate another vif to me and my alts saying how angry you are?

At least it’ll stop you from Salvoshing this thread even more…

We dont need a planetary atmosphere to survive, just a contained atmosphere of gasses we need to respire, and which are not toxic, such as inside a spacesuit, spaceship or pressurized habitation.

Your science is weak.

Still waiting on what “black matter” is.

Well when you say something wrong, it’s just correct to point out that behind your sarcastic tone, there is nothing of truth.
BLACK matter does not exist.
Also DARK matter is not denser than common matter. Actually its density is much lower.

You are using words you have no idea of to be sarcastic. Please restrain yourself from hitting your own head on the ground, this is pathetic.

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How the heck do you know that dark matter density is lower than normal matter, you got some hanging about in ya pocket?

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