It’s more accurate than calling most highsec merc groups mercs lol
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They are a mercenary group, at least they have fought for pay in the past on many, many occassions. Now that they are holding space directly they may not be doing that kind of thing right now like when during the days when they lived in Fountain. After IT Alliance kicked them out they became largely nomadic holding no sov directly (later they did have a considerable rental empire), but for the most part the moved around the galaxy taking on various mercenary contracts. But most of this predates the existence of the character Salvos Rhoska…so maybe this is before your time in game.
Oh and then there is this.
PL is also known for mercenary business. Mercenaries can be hired for money or other assets to provide extra fire power at the frontlines or to create some diversion elsewhere to weaken the opposing forces. With a massive capital and supercapital fleet and the potential to disrupt even large 0.0 alliances, PL was hired as a mercenary group several times. Not all contracts were finished successfully according to Shamis, for example the contract IT vs. Goonswarm lacked the desired effects. Shamis mentioned that new mercenaries should be able to cover their own expenses and that merc payment should be more considered a bonus than a salary.
IT Alliance hired them in the past, and so have others.
Nonsense, Goons were never mercenaries.
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Yeah, I know it sucks being shown you were wrong. 
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the only decision for wardecks - make the possibility for other side (which being wardecked) to choose whether to accept war or decline it
IOW, give even more safety to people who are too lazy and/or stupid to survive. No.
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That is already the case. If you don’t want to participate in a war, right-click and select ‘Leave Corporation’ and the war goes away.
Besides, how would anyone be able to contest a structure if wars were consensual?
“No thanks guys, I am good here with my invulnerable refinery/market hub/engineering complex. I’ll sit this war out and continue to do my max yield industry safe from anything you can do to me.”
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thx for reply
we all know it’s not about being lazy or stupid but rather about how much time you can be in game
There is a low- and null- secs for this. There should be possibilities to play the game for everyone: for those who can be in game all days around and for those who used to visit it when free time.
Also structures already has difference of being placed in high-secs or in null-secs.
High-secs must be trully they are.
Highsec already truly is, however, just like null and low, it is not safe. Anyone can be attacked anywhere in space and that will hopefully never change.
But as Pedro pointed out, just drop Corp if you want to escape a wardec. Then you’re immune from wardecs if you are in an NPC Corp.
As for structures, yes structures can be placed in all security areas, however without wardecs there would be no way to destroy them in highsec (eg. destroy competing market hubs) or sieze control of planets (ie. take ownership of the POCOs so you can control who can use the customs office to import/export and how much they pay).
So wardecs are fine and needed in the game. They are also trivial to avoid completely.
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Again there are. CCP has thoughtfully provided NPC corporations which will protect you from wars. NPC stations also offer almost all the services available in player-owned structures, and you also have the option of using other players’ structures while in the NPC corp. Nothing is cut-off to players in the NPC corp.
You can have all the possibilities to play the game from the NPC corp, and you can do so as hard-core or as casual as you would like. You also have the option of forming a corporation, gaining a few additional perks but with the responsibility of defending yourself and your structures from the other players who can now declare war on you. You can now start testing the competitive waters from the relative safety of highsec where you can engage in conflict with a defined group, not all of New Eden as in the areas outside highsec.
But if you don’t want to do that, just stay in the NPC corp and avoid wars entirely. You can do pretty much everything in the game from there - almost all option are still available to you.
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But what if one do play eve sometimes, he ready to pay subscription and present in this world but don’t wanna live in it?
The beasy man will not be watching all this vulnerability windows, will not be wake up at night to defend the station in virtual reality and even if it’s his prime time he will not always be in game on this periods.
If one suddenly want and ready to play extreme games he goes lows/nulls.
But there should be normal game place for 90% players.
There may be a way.
Auctions for example. All structures (including POCO) in high-sec should be a property of empire and players are just rent them. Every mounth there’s an auction. If someone need the place he will give a better price.
But if there just about to destroy - it’s not how it should be. If someone want such a game-play - welcome to null-secs.
And watch on this fake CONCORD is just hilarious.
Regarding market. NPC stations will always be a main hubs (untill wardec mechanics change).
There much more people who will like to play normal game play.
Let’s face the truth now wardec became a sort of bussines, lost it’s trully aim. This is because there are exploits in It’s mechanics. It shouldn’t be that way.
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One last time: there is. It’s called the NPC corporation. You can avoid wars 100% from there. You can use NPC station services from there. You can use other peoples’ Upwell structures from there. The game is completely open to you from there.
Stop claiming it is impossible to play the game because of 100% avoidable wardecs. If you don’t want to fight other players, you have a space that is immune from any declarations of war.
Highsec is a place for all players to use, including those that want to fight each other, but in a controlled way because they are in a small group or solo or whatever and don’t want to take on everyone else in the game like elsewhere. Quit being so selfish and asking CCP to take their game away because you don’t want to use the intended mechanic (the NPC corp) to avoid wars for some reason.
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Then you can play occasionally, and just not have things like player-built stations that require a greater time investment. You don’t get to break EVE’s rules of risk vs. reward and have all the rewards handed to you with minimum effort just because you have limited time.
Just a thought but if its isk/hr due to limited time, then WH, LS and NS with a covert exploration frigate beats most HS activities you can do in an hour or so with almost zero prep.
Okay. So your trait is: in this game can only play the person who has not much to do in real life, who can sit in game all the day. Otherwise you can’t make a babysiting with your structures.
But the reality is such a people can’t pay subscription.
Let’s then CCP will be tell from the first seconds of it’s trailers:
“there’s much of place and opportunities but for 90% of you there’s only NPC corporations and some pieces of gameplay. But if you be sitting 23h/7d in this game you could have anything”.
As collateral decision from CCP was alpha-clones - it can makes some people to stay because no sense to pay for deficient game (because wardec mechanics made it this way).
*all who in this thread defend current wardec mechanics should post whether they wardecers (or those who regulary hire them) or not.
Where do you get your information from?
You dont need to babysit due to timers. you set your own time.
And alphas are not a result of wardecs mechanics…
Oh… and FYI, I was wardeccer for 6+ years. until CCP removed watchlist.
Now I’m only a bitter vet.
(the old forums would show affiliations, but yeah… its harder to know who’s who in this new format.)
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If you are limited in time, HS L4s are always the safest bet for an hour online, over a covert exploration frigate.
If by not you mean that theyve never been in a war their corp or alliance started? And Im not sure anyone here is 100% happy with them, but they really arent the disability you think they are.
I defend wardecs but i don’t use them. I’m just not an idiot.
You don’t have to be in the game 24/7. Even if you have a structure you don’t need to be. How are you this confused?
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