(Actually) Interesting Ideas for Ending the Amarr-Minmatar Conflict

Hey. Be nice.

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Namas, Ms Jenneth. How do you keep this social structure tuperash in your head?

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Well, it’s pretty easy to study a society when you’re living in it and interacting with it. You can think about some interaction and think, okay, so this worked like that. Then you can think about another and go, wait, but that other time worked differently; why?

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Is it really much more complex than other social structures. The Clan structures in Matari hierarchies confuse me because they work in circles so much… actually spirals might be a better description because some social status is personal and others is down to their proximity to high status relatives. It seems very organic.

My own system is pretty hierarchical but also more mobile and fluid than some. Mostly it’s related to your success at work - but there’s also an element of cultural purity.

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Namas, Mr Tuulinen. It could just be the social structure’s foreignness that makes it feel more difficult than it actually might be.

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Almost certainly the case, Ms Ambrye.

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It only seems that way cuz it is.

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The best possible reason for something to seem something.

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Response went in the wrong thread…

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Man, you wouldn’t want to work in a Minmatar-run corporation. The way hierarchies work in there will require you to draw a bloody Venn diagram to understand. You have the obvious hierarchy of middle managers, executives and such, and you will have departments. However, once you penetrate into the departments, you will find Circles upon Circles upon Circles upon Circles with members moving back and forth between them depending on their goals. Even then the Circles aren’t static either. They form and disintegrate again depending on project goals. Once a project is completed and there is no further need to develop the project, the Circle disintegrates and the members will move on into another Circle to work on other projects. Some of the Circles may even span across departments depending on the scope of the project.

Let’s not even ignore the ‘corporations’ that are, in actual fact, a Circle in its entirety. Or the Circles that keep on existing due to the sheer scope of their project and are in themselves made out of departments or smaller Circles.

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that sounds more ordered than my clan.

is there a handbook out there how to transform an organisation to a modern matari one?

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Probably not. There won’t be all that much to write about regarding how to create Circles, due to the simplicity of their start.

Generally, a Circle is formed when a group of like-minded individuals from the same Clan/Tribe or multiple Clans and Tribes come together and decided to pool their resources into a certain project or goal. Once they start working together, a Circle officially starts.

After that, the Circle will gain or lose members depending on the goals of any individual member. If an outsider has the same goal and the required skill set to contribute to the Circle’s project or goal, he can come and join in and stay until he decided that he had exhausted his ability to contribute, or he has learned enough and needs to move on to further develop himself, or etc, and leaves.

This will keep continuing until the Circle finally achieves its goals, upon which the Circle will either switch goals or disbands and its members move on to their separate ways.

Depending on the Circle’s goals, some of them may last several years. Others can span multiple generations. For the ones that last multiple generations, the founding members may have long since departed and were succeeded by the next generations.

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thanks for the information nevertheless.

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There’s actually quite a bit more to talk about regarding Circles and how they relate to social status and such, but I think it’s better to just start a new thread to talk about it.

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that is a good idea i need something which i can present to a matriarch of herdsmen which is not too intrusive on a known and accepted structure.

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Literally.

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I have it on good authority that pie is a vital component of a Circle.

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I would be greatly interested in such a topic. Since the granting of my freedom in order to complete my capsuleer training, I have come to understand many new things about the Minmatar culture that were only dimly foreshadowed in our community among the breeding pens.

My mother spoke - rarely - about such ‘circles’ and some of our military training may have been organised around such principles as you have described. However, that may be mere coincidence.

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oh holy cakespace

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I mean, this is a complete non-starter. Reparations are absolutely required. The Minmatar people were subjected to centuries of enslavement, occupation, genetic tampering, cultural destruction, exploitation of their sovereign territory’s natural resources, murder, rape and genocide. Their culture, language, history and even their genetic makeup has been irrevocably altered by unprovoked action upon the part of the Empire. It is incumbent upon the Amarr not only to free their slaves but to make efforts to reverse the centuries of cultural and biological tampering they’ve inflicted.

And before anyone asks, yes, I say this as a person who would be absolutely willing to demand that his own nation pay reparations to the Caldari, so let us now leave the Gallente-Caldari issue entirely out of this discussion of Amarr-Minmatar relations.

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