CCP has proven time and time again that they are trapped. They listen to the sycophants that only PVP. For the last year CCP has been trying to sell us this idea of a “healthy” economy. What healthy economy? An economy where the prices of ships have skyrocketed. An economy where you forced LOW TEIR INDUSTRIALISTS that just want to make battleships into low sec to be cannon fodder for snuff… When big players like the Mittani say, “This change is going to hurt little guys the most,”. I know it sounds like rhetoric where they use the little guy as a shield when they really mean it will hurt them. However, no, these changes absolutely destroy the little guy in so many ways.
You see, ALL OF THESE CHANGES WERE MADE TO PLACATE THE DESIRES OF LOUD BOISTEROUS BIG GROUPS… the change to take nullification from frigates was to placate the WH EVICTION COMMUNITY… lilke that is something that really needs to be placated too… CCP, WH evictors are on the same level as high sec gankers. Think about it, do eviction groups EVER EVER EVER bring a “fair fight”… no they ALWAYS bring overwhelming numbers to curbstomp the target… this only furthers their monopoly on blue loot because their real objective is to stop anyone else accessing their revenue stream. The design was fine as it was… but CCP keeps listening to these sycophants and we are tired of it. All they would have to do is work harder and bring more force. But instead you want these people to have life on easy mode and small wh corps to have to put up with them. Not to mention their obnoxious elitism…
In relation to stabs, you completely have rendered them borderline useless. You have forced industrialists into lowsec and have made them sitting duck targets for pvp groups. No small group is going to attempt a low sec industrial operation where their bases are ALREADY SUBJECT TO
SCAMMING FROM BAIT INDY CITADELS
INCREASED VULNERABILITY TO MOVE INDUSTRIAL MATERIALS AROUND
INCREASED VULNERABILITY TRYING TO COLLECT PI
A WELL PATROLLED AREA MEANS THE LOCAL AUTHORITIES (SNUFF) have a monopoly on industry in Low Sec. Before a dedicated player could sneak under their influence by making their operations small enough to not be noticed and move from system to system with SOME safety with stabs. THERE WAS COUNTER PLAY INCLUDING HEAVY SCRAMS, HICS, REMOTE SEBOED HICS, AND MULTIPLE POINTS. NOW THERE IS NO COUNTERPLAY, LIVING IN DEEP LOWSEC LIKE .1 WITH GOOD PI IS SO POINTLESS BECAUSE YOU HAVE LITTLE REWARD AND YOU NEED A JUMP FRIEGHTER FOR MOBILITY WHICH MAKES YOU A HUGE TARGET.
THESE CHANGES WILL NOT INCREASE LOW SEC VIABILITY… THEY WILL FORCE A PSUDO VICE ROY PROGRAM UNDER SNUFF LEADING PLAYERS TO FRUSTRATION
WE KNOW SNUFF IS THE LOW SEC KING AND THEY ARE SCANDALOUS SCOUNDRELS… THEY NEVER KEEP THIER WORD AND YOU ARE FORCING ALL LOW SEC WHICH IS NOW A BIG PART OF THE ECOSYSTEM TO BE UNDER THIER JURISDICTION…
WORSE YET IT IS CLEAR CCP DID NOT READ OR RESPOND TO ANY OF THE SMALL GUY STAB CHANGE FEEDBACK. THEY CONSTANTLY PLACATE TO THESE BIG GROUPS IN HOPE IT WILL BRING THEM REVENUE. THESE BIG GROUPS ARE DOMINATED BY ONE VOICE, THEY DONT BRING REVENUE THEY JUST CRY LOUDLY AND ARE VOCAL. THE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS BRING THE RENEVUE AND YOU CONSISTENTLY IGNORE THEM FOR EITHER A DYSTOPIAN FANTASY AGENDA OR TO PLACATE TO THESE SYCOPHANTS…
NEW PLAYERS WILL HAVE A TERRIBLE TIME… 4-12 MONTH OLD PLAYERS WILL POTENTIALLY QUIT KNOWING THAT THIER SMALL GROUP EFFORTS WONT EVEN ALLOW THEM TO DO SMALL THIGS LIKE SET UP SUPPLY CHAINS IN LOW SEC
THE STAB CHANGE WAS TO PLACATE TO CSM NULL CONTROLLED INPUT THAT STABBED ISTARS ARE BAD TM…
ANSWER- GIVE A SCRAM BONUS TO CEPTORS AS THEY WERE DONT BREAK THE GAME TRYING TO PLACTE TO THESE LAZY ASSHOLES. THEY CAN FIT DUAL POINTS OR HEAVY SCRAMBLERS… IT WASNT EVEN BROKEN THEY COULD HAVE USED THE MALUS NAVY ISSSUE… BUT NOOOO EVERYTHING MUST BE PERFECT FOR THEM ITS SICKENING
THE NULLIFICATION ON FRIGATES MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT BACK THE DRAMIEL AND OTHER SHIPS
CCP PLACATED TO CANCEROUS REPEAT CANCEROUS AGAIN CANCEROUS WH EVICTORS TO ONCE AGAIN MAKE EVERYTHING PERFECT FOR THEM…
WH EVICTORS USE ESPIONAGE TO INFILTRATE SMALL CORPS TO FIND TARGETS OF VALUE… THEN THEY CRUSH THEM WIH OVERWHELMING FORCE AND CLAIM TO BE ELITE PVPERs. While the gameplay style is valid they are on the same level as gankers…
To placate them AGAIN, CCP TOOK NULLIFICATION OFF FRIGATES.
THIS WHOLE CHANGE ALL IN ALL IS A HUGE NERF TO MOBILITY.
IT IS A FAT NERF TO LOW SEC.
CCP ADD THE ABILTITY FOR INDUSTRIAL SHIPS TO FIT AN EXTRA STAB AS A ROLE BONUS. THAT WAY STABS WONT BE USED IN COMBAT AND LOW SEC PEOPLE TRYING TO SET UP SMALL OPERATORS WHICH YOU NEED FOR A HEALTHY ECONOMY HAVE A FIGHTING CHANCE OF NOT LOOSING LOADS WORTH OF GOODS TO A SINGLE POINT AND SCRAM CARACAL / CORAX… DSTS ARE SLOW AND EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND NOW STILL VULNERABLE TO THE COUNTERS LISTED SBOVE WITH LITTLE COUNTER PLAY, BLOCKADE RUNNERS EVEN MORE SO WITH NO STABILITY.
Also, ADD NULLIFICATION BACK TO T1 and FACTION FRIGATES SO THIS WHOLE PATCH ISNT A HUGE NERF. JUST ENTIRELY IGNORE THE SPOILED ENTITLED WH SYCOPHANTS… I live in Pochven I know how to pvp this isn’t some pubbie crying for no reason who doesn’t want to defend himself at all. This is a valid response to these cancerous changes.
I HONESTLY WOULD BOYCOTT… I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BOYCOTT THEIR OMEGAs… IVE BENN PLAYING 10 YEARS. ABONOXIOUSLY FOR ALL MY PI CHARACTERS THEY ALL HAVE TO BE ESCORTED BY A BLACKBIRD OR A FALCON WHICH IS A HUGE PAIN IN THE NECK… THAT CHARACTER COULD BE ELSEWHERE HELPING GET TEDIOUS CHORES OF INDUSTRY DONE… and that is the main point tedium… we have the same level of tedium with exponentially more difficultly and no reward.
CCP, STOP MAKING THINGS NERFED TO THE GROUND… 90% of all the pve in this game is a tedious grind in monotony. You should not have nerfed null to the point where it is not worth doing anomalies without first adding a way to make them more fun. If you just nerf everything repeatedly, people will quit. I am sure CCP will see an uptick in the number of account downgrades or people just being converted to alpha ping warriors while they play other games. Even I am considering reducing y accounts to play other games.
Already done that. I’m not giving CCP any more money until the game is fun to play again. Right now it’s become nothing but a huge pain in the arse.
So now I only log in as an Alpha when I get bored of my other games and I have to tell you, it’s hard to get bored of Elite Odyssey!
I forgot to mention another aspect of play that got ruined is being able to do pirate missions in nullsec. I know this is controversial, but CCP NEEDS to understand that despite rhetoric. Ships costs money and that money is generated through use of time or real life money. That is what makes things great. A solo player use to be able to do pirate missions in nullsec in a “semi” unprobably tengu. I was planning on investing billions into getting my characters up to snuff to do blood raider missions in Delve. I know that this is controversial gameplay, but does CCP realize every change they make is forcing people into socialized big groups. You are forcing people into hegemonic entities like Goons and snuff for safety and protection. All these changes make it harder and harder for people to go out and do stuff on their own. An unprobable tengu can get caught if the user makes a mistake or the hunter is persistant which is almost always the case. Now those implants will go up in price in addition to ship prices. These mission hubs are dominated by local powers and you have to submit to the local authorities to do the content. You have to gate a maruader so that is not a viable alternative and it is vulnerable to be probed in warp.
Really? Is that why Procurers got a huge EHP buff, why were given Ventures and their Tech2 variants, Porpoises, and why Rorquals were buffed beyond all imagination? Is that why Mauraders are basically dreads in HiSec, why Freighters were given bulkheads, and why bumping was nerfed?
I believe you can still install battleship jobs in HiSec. Are you talking about gas huffing or mining anoms for Isogen and Nocxium? Trust me I doubt Snuff cares very much about your T1 fit Venture.
Really? Cuz, uh, those groups are whining about capital prices.
I didn’t read the rest of your post as it devolved into whiny capslock spam.
We are talking about a mining operation with barges not one guy in a Venture dude. These things get dropped all the time. Even though the procurer is stronger it is not a combat ship. The cap prices are increasing and that has hurt large groups, but the hurt to small groups here can’t be overlooked as these groups are more organized and better equipped for adaptation. Small guys have to survive on what they grow. And yes, you need the resources from lowsec to make battleships. You need the PI and you need to do the rections in low sec and you need to be able to more your product around which is hugely hit by stab nerfs. Obviously, you do non industrial stuff at all.
I’m a new industrialist. I build battleships to PVP in and while “just import it bro” is an option, I live in Pochven, I get a lot of salvage and scrapmetal from killing edencom. So I would rather use that to build my own. I am not sure what industrialists build exclusively for retail. I am talking about the guy who builds ships for his small corp to use. Fits for members to buy off contract.
