Alliance Tournament XVII - An Update!

So CCP. In your infinite wisdom after all these years with bad press. All these times you could have garned good press but instead chose to make create bad press.

You decided well lets go for the trifecta? 2017 was full of bad press, 2018 was full of bad press, so lets go kick off 2019 with bad press as well.

How can you in your right mind cancel the AT on these idiotic reasons. When your AT pilots might be the most invested players in this game. Not to mention they contain a fair chunk of the content creators in this game.

Like CCP why are you doing this? What is the official reasoning behind this?
Are you so inclined to run this game into the ground? Then please just publicly state it because this is just blueballs at this point.


Falcon… why is this happening? Not any vague promises on balance, just tell us why. We’ve been burned by ya’ll promising balance for years. It just doesn’t cut it anymore the EVE playerbase jsut sees vague promises of ‘balance’ as a cop out. If the AT was losing you too much money just say it. If ya’ll couldn’t come up with rules just say it. All this vague ■■■■■■■■ you’re posting is just eroding what little trust people have left. Personally I just resubbed my accounts to prepare for the AT. Hearing that it won’t happen is devastating. At least gives us a better reason than a vague promise of balance. Otherwise myself and probably many others are not gonna resub when they drop.


I am sorry to see that CCP has found yet another way to let down the community. The top tier AT teams are willing to put in hundreds of hours getting ready for this and CCP can’t put in a couple days worth of dev overtime ?

Here is a 100% honest question to CCP… How much plex is it going to take to bring back the AT ? Maybe we can just pay for it…


That’s a real shame. I appreciate the warning so I didn’t spend the next several months training solely for the AT, but my skill queue has been dedicated to AT “minmax”-style skill points for a very long time already… and I doubt I will be going to any CCP world tour event given my location and career. A weekend event I could compete in remotely is the biggest draw for a lot of us in Eve, and now we have so much less to look forward to, and less reason to stay subscribed…


They should have gone back to how the alliance tourney was in the first few seasons, they were a lot more fun to watch, rahter then this retartded bracket system etc that they have had now.

We’d honestly like to look at how we support grassroots tournament initiatives that come from the community a lot more - there’s quite a few of them out there that have proven to be very successful.

Whether that’s through game mechanics or just support for practice and hosting is entirely up in the air right now, but we totally understand that there’s a thirst out there for organized PvP.

I’ve been with the Alliance Tournament as a player, volunteer and dev for more than a decade now. In fact, I think I might be the only CCPer still around who’s been with the tournament that long, so I’m also kinda sad that it’s not going to happen this year, but we factored a lot of reasons into taking a break.

Both viewership and participation have fallen subsantially in the last few years, so it made sense to have a hiatus and look at what we can do to come back fresh.

We’re looking at ways that we can ramp it back up again, whether that be through hosting ourselves or assisting with a third party tournament, or whether it would mean having a totally different set of mechanics.

Lots to consider, we just need to take time to look at the options for what we can do :slight_smile:


Whats your stance on CCP currently moving their WHOLE competitive scene into offline events, either forcing your playerbase to either happen to live nearby OR to be able to cover their travelling expenses JUST to be able to play their game with the playstyle some of them have had for 15 YEARS?


We’re only in february, have faith that they will come with far worse news then this later this year


I’m sure there’s a grand plan of some kind in play, can you let us know or at least give us some hints as to what you’re working toward? Working on quality of life is all when and good when fewer people are actually logging in to play the game. This is the most stagnant I’ve seen Eve in a long time and this doesn’t give me much hope for it improving.

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Why does this feel like the beginning of a “look, we´re listening to our player base. here you got your AT” move? Just like the Hydra and Tiamat thing last year.


We can HOPE that’s what they’re doing.

What plans? You literally said nothing but no fanfest, and no at tournament. Also WHERE THE ■■■■ ARE ANGEL CAPS.

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Thats because you (ccp) have made a mockery of what the alliance tourney used to be. Move away from some of the retarded rules, and even more so, the bracket system. Go back to how it was orignally and I bet the numbers would have been back up.
Who in their right mind bothers to sit and watch the alliance tourney for 3 straight weekends, with endless talking between the fights…


Both viewership and participation have fallen substantially in the last few years, so it made sense to have a hiatus and look at what we can do to come back fresh.

Add an in-game betting system for the AT. Viewership will skyrocket. Its been falling because you took away the best bits of it. left it a shell of its former self and now wonder why its dying.

Whilst I appreciate the reponse and sentiment that ccp would rather support community events. It would have made sense to contact said communities and had something planned in advance to the cancelation.

At the moment it just sounds like CCP cant be arsed and would prefer the playerbase did it instead.

CCPlease. Stop this insane self destruction thing you have going on. Bring back the EVE we all love.

Lots to consider, we just need to take time to look at the options for what we can do.

Could you not have done that prior to this announcement?


so you’re cancelling one of the few things you can actually manage to consistently produce, and produce well?

this bodes well.


Jesus. You guys managed to make me unsubscribe my nine accounts with the horrendous way you’ve treated the setting and the development of it, Rorquals/Supers Online and so on, and now you’re removing the final bits of Eve that had any merit? Are you guys actively trying to kill your damn game?

I’m genuinely perplexed. You have to realize your hamfisted focus on short-term gains and abandonment of long-term Eve development and tradition will erode that core of players that keeps the game alive in the first place. Doesn’t matter how many newblings you guys can attract if you don’t maintain that core of turbonerds and sociopaths that does the actual maintenance and provides the actual gameplay of Eve, you know. Everything, everything, in Eve stems from that one singular core mechanic: Ships lost are actual losses, and PvP is the main cause of that. That is the primary effect that everything else cascades from. Resource gathering, industry, territory control, trade, wars, ganking, even missioning and so on. Literally all of it loses meaning the moment you don’t have that Core Driver in place. It loses purpose.

Every step you take that hurts this PvP Core hurts everything else in the entire game, up to and including the beariest of the bears.

Fuckin’ with the Alliance Tournament is the worst mistake you guys could have done this year, and the fact that you guys cite low viewership as the reason shows how you’ve completely lost sight of the fact that the only reason Eve even exists at this point is the Core Playerbase that you’re now shitting on for no good reason. Without them, you don’t have the mass to maintain gravity, and you’ll see the entire game waft away in puffs of ‘meh’.

Stop screwing around with what we once came to love, damn it.


Just wait for it… In a move to better support our player base… CCP introduces the 2020 Spod Bot mining championships… Finally something goons can win.


What a big ■■■■ you to the community.


You can actually do both. Host another AT and think about how to make it better for next year.

This is turning into such a common excuse at CCP, “we need to think about it some more”. Sorry can’t do that right now because we want to think about it a lot and really get it right. I don’t know what’s going on over there, but from where I’m sitting the only logical reason for this is a lack of capacity. Feels like the whole game has been fobbed off while the company focuses on other things.

There’s zero passion coming across from the development team, zero interest in the game beyond selling injectors and SKINs. Which is a shame, because I’m sure there are many people there who do care, I’m just not seeing it from here.