Allow ALPHA players to pay for the game!

Because his alts still then have to pay. Notice how it’s a really old character that has been inactive for a long time, chances are he came back and wanted to fire up his whole operation again. You’re trying to make sense of his idea, just don’t. It doesn’t make sense because it was never meant to make sense, his idea is just random words used as a means to an end: free omega for his alts.

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If you can’t commit to a full Omega sub just buy the weekend pack for some game time as and when you need it.

You can buy as many as you wish and use them at anytime, not just the weekends..

You get 50 plex as well.

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We can summarize: He would like to gain full Omega benefits on demand while saving a whole lot of money from not subbing the accounts. :rofl:

So, in the end, he simply wants to pay less. Crazy!

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These word salad posts, which is not even worthy of a frostpacker post, comes down too I want my cake and eat it to..

You can either put in the time and grind it out to get omega every month or simply buy the weekend or seven days omegas. Others have pointed out other ways.. So yeah, this would be a No.

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You can just use PLEX.

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This is a nonexistent problem. You don’t have to use every 720 hours you pay for in a month. You’re not charged by the hour. And thinking you’re wasting money unless you use all the hours inside the 30-day period? Well, that’s just your brain problem. 99% of the players don’t feel this way.

The game has been monetized enough. Sick of hearing pleas for more monetization. If you can’t wrap your head around the concept of subscription based game or have a personal issue with it, then you need to figure it out on your own. EVE has plenty of reasonable options available.

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IIRC if you’re going to be away for a while you can submit a support ticket to have your omega time paused. I’ve never personally tried it though, so YMMV.

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This is actually brilliant.

Not only do you add hundreds of paywalls to existing Omega-locked content, but you further restrict alpha accounts from accessing any content that they used to be able to.

I think this is really good. So if I am an alpha player, and I want to build 10 scourge rockets to sell them on the jita market, all I have to do under this new system is:

  1. Spend 5 USD to purchase a blueprint permit for scourge rockets
  2. Spend 5 USD to purchase an industry permit for scourge rockets
  3. Spend 5 USD and 100 million ISK to purchase a mining permit
  4. Spend 5 USD to purchase a hauler permit
  5. Spend 5 USD to purchase a docking permit
  6. Spend 5 USD to purchase a market permit
  7. Spend 5 USD to purchase a sell order permit for 10 (ten) scourge rockets
  8. Spend 5 USD to renew the sell order and market permit if my 10 scourge rockets have not already sold within 2 hours.

Look at how efficent this is. I’m not spending an entire month THROWING AWAY my good money, but now I can precisely spend my money on ONLY the things that I need.

You guys act like this is predatory monetization of a game the likes the western civilization has never seen before. You guys act like this would generate such an extensive outrage and loss of trust in CCP’s abilities, that it could very well be the actual final nail that would kill this game.
Nonsense!
You just don’t understand the genius in this idea.

So I propose @Skillerkid that you take this with UTMOST HASTE to → → → Player Features & Ideas - EVE Online Forums and post it there. The leadership of CCP needs to hear about this revolutionary model and the multi-income stream wealth that this idea will generate. It can’t wait! You need to do it now!! \o/

With excited regards
-James Fuchs

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it’s brilliant!
giphy

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…How do I do it without mining permit? True.

I never pays a single permit. Mystery Permit.

This is close to a Balos level of pants on head.

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Free to Play is one of those “loose terms” the game companies throw at you to entice you to play their game. It is almost as badly phrased as, Pay to Win, players think they are playing for “free” but they are not. Let’s call the kettle black. ALL commercial games that call themselves Free to Play has something up their sleeve to get your cash. Some of these incentives are in the following fashions;

Pay Wall - Found on other games and here on Eve with the separation of alpha and omega ships. Content unavailable to alpha such as Planetary Industry.

Pay to Cheat - Paid customers are allowed to subvert the system. This is found here as omega can purchase the right to multibox the game. Other games allow paid customers to bot the game, but that is not allowed here for now.

Pay for Premiums - Boosters and skill enhancers are found in most every online game. Some take the form of pets or mounts you can buy to enhance your character’s ability far beyond the scope of the average player.

Pay for Beauty - CS:GO is the biggest one to successfully use this one. Have you seen the horrific prices in real world cash they trade skins for in this game? I think they are working on this with the new skinning tools recently added, but I don’t see the appeal.

The list doesn’t end there. However the alternative to subscriptions and hidden fees is the Buy to Play model. Guild Wars, Black Desert, and New World released as Buy to Play, while Guild Wars reduced the price the original game still remains Buy to Play. Black Desert offers packages starting at $10 and increase in price with incentives. While New World is Buy to Play it also offers incentives with micro-transactions. The issue with the Buy to Play model is the market saturates and sales drop.

Eve Online started as a subscriber only game, in 2018, in an act of desperation, they dropped the sub to omega and introduced the “Free to Play” version as limited alpha accounts. They also took out a hefty loan with Pearl Abyss, which will be overdue next month.

Neither do I, but many people do, so that is not going to change. Point of fact, several players have more than one omega account so they can do that multiboxing, I discussed above. As for myself, I am happy to donate my cash ( to any game ) I enjoy playing. The best way to do that is just buy some PLEX currency from the game store. The PLEX is game currency and if you can’t find time to play, it will always be there.

PLEX is also sold in the market for ISK, but you will grind for it. Some players grind ISK to buy PLEX in the market, then use the PLEX to buy omega. Seems too much like work to me, but if they enjoy it, what does it matter to me?

Welcome to the game and forum, fly safe, and stay alert. o7

I think some people assume that if a monthly subscription fee is 20 eur, then 1 hour of game time must be 3 cents (0.03 eur) then. Which probably sounds great in their heads. Which is also completely false. Nowhere in the Western world do you get to pay less per unit if you consume less. It’s the opposite in fact. When you buy a smaller bottle of Coke, the price of it per Liter (or gallon) is higher than when you buy a larger bottle. Same goes for pretty much anything I can think of. The unit price is not fixed. It’s very much dependent on how much you use/consume, and the less you consume the more you will be paying.

So, in EVE if you wanted to pay on an hourly basis, I’m pretty sure it would cost you something in the environs of 5 eur per hour. Maybe a bit less, if CCP is feeling generous, but I’m absolutely certain you will not be paying even as low as 50 cents per hour. So, yeah, if you’re the type of person who does really log on into the game 1-2 hours per month, that type of thing might save you a few bucks. In all other cases not.

If you play just to get enough ISK to buy 500PLEX to activate Omega – yes, that is a job, not a game. If, however, you play and in the course of you doing it, you generate ISK that well exceeds the monthly subscription fee (if you subscribe monthly), then that is not work. It’s just a happy byproduct to be able to play for free.

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Yes, we are on the same page. Most people do this math; 20 euros divided by 30 day ( 0.667 ) divided by 24 = 0.03, which is bad math. Most people, I assume don’t or can’t play more that 16 hours per weekend; 20 euros divided by 60 hours a month is 0.34 euro an hour.

Fly safe o7

oh by the way, I also don’t use the first formula for streaming channel subs, I divided my NetFlix bill by the number of good movies I watch in a month… I cancelled my NetFlix.

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OK I am sold. He should most definitely scoop up all of this idea into a pile and take it over to the features & ideas. I am sure the devs will know exactly what to do with this once they see it for what it is.

You know James, they call it micro-transactions. I think I will stick to what I said about the PLEX, it will be cheaper to buy it, sit on it when I am not playing the game.
:slightly_smiling_face:

o7

So instead of paying say £15 pound per month for the subscription (not sure on actual price haven’t payed for a long time) you want to have micro transaction that could add up to £30/40 or £50 per month. Because those micro transactions won’t be as small as you think they will be for what you want to buy.

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They’ve snuck it up to £16pm now with the excuse of giving you a few boosters with the pack.

It’s disgusting how much they expect players to pay.

Even without micro transactions..

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Things get more expensive, news at 11.

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News at 12, players wait for a cheaper offer/sale.