I just don’t think that making the game cumbersome for the players is the right strategy to fight bots. I also don’t think any such system would prevent botting for more than a week and then you would still have bots but also cumbersome gameplay everywhere.
The issue here is with CCP and not with the gameplay.
I have killed over 200 mission bots…
The ai and mechanics are nothing to do with the carnage. It’s the super OP stats on them all.
Well it’s either that, or CCP pulls out some uber bot detection system.
As fun as bot shooting can be, I don’t really think it’s doing much, since the amount of ISK they get is more than enough to compensate for the occasional gank. So unless you guys plan to camp them 24/7 and concording an absurd amount of catalysts I do not see how that is making any difference.
Lol, again. The problem is with CCP not investing any effort to tackle the problem. I did not say that ganking is any solution at all.
And no a uber bot detection tool is not the solution. A team of people who know what they are doing and tacke the problem by adapting to what the not creators do is the solution.
Killing them is also one way to confirm botting. And I get a permanent record of it 
Systems where botting happens in Null should get a debuff for a period of time.
If that system is currently owned with Sovereignty that debuff should be extremely long.
If the Alliance that owns that system loses that system the debuff should randomly move to a different system they own.
It is time CCP you gave the alliances something to lose by renting to botters.
nothings going to happen, i have even reported people bragging about how they are multiboxing alpha accounts
It’s stunning how every suggestion of you ends with people who are not you getting their stuff nerfed or fined. Or would you find it OK if highsec mining or mission rewards get a debuff because of highsec bots, because that is essentially the same?
Again, defending against bots is the business of CCP and not of the players.
Lets be honest where bots are destroying EvE.
Its not Hisec, you can scream HISEC BOTS! But reality as hisec mining goes they would need massive fleets to even dent mining to the equivalent damage that Nullsec bots are doing.The same goes with anomaly running and that’s pretty obvious to most of the playerbase.
Now if you want to change Hisec mission running to say not let somebody turn down 400 missions a day so they can reroll Zor or the one giving you drone Ai, then fine, it probably should of been done already. I mean its obvious they don’t care or they probably would of changed it already.
The vast damage EvE has been taking from botting comes direct from Nullsec and that’s where the target needs to be swiftly placed to handle it back. Not Wormholes not Losec and not so much hisec. There is a reason they have chosen there because it is too safe.
CCP has made a continuous policy of looking the other way on corps botting in alliances.They target the player but never his alliance. THIS IS THE WRONG POLICY. If you encourage people to look the other way by giving them no penalty they will everytime. I ask you CCP how many people have turned in botters from their own alliance, I am betting that number is horribly low. They know whats happening they look the other way and you reward them with a free trip to Iceland for the CSM. This cant continue, you need to change more than mechanics at this point, you need to change attitudes, and the attitude where you are just spineless and fall in line doesn’t have a happy EvE ending.
I think there is an important distinction to make here.
Bots in HS, lots of people see and/or encounter, and generally can do very little about, if anything at all.
Bots anywhere else, people CHOOSE to do nothing about… or they are gaining advantage from them.
Either way, CCP either needs to step it up, or give us the tools to do so in their stead.
I will just point out two things:
Just because they are not using any omega mods doens’t actually mean they are all alphas. It COULD mean that, but it doesn’t. "why not just mine in a skiff then’ price maybe? IDK. The ships they are using were free at one time, so who knows. They could be alphas, but one can;t just assume they are.
And second, they may not be bots, just some dude sitting at a keyboard using isobox to manage the accounts. I have seen lots of videos of people doing really fast crap with a lot of accounts and no macros.
With that said, if they are breaking the rules then ban there ass. Report them, and gank them, let god (in this case ccp) sort them out.
Did you look at the upper left corner of the screenshot in the op? This whole thread is about Highsec mining bots and yes they are an issue as well.
How do you know that? do you have any actual numbers on that?
Yes, because each player is an individual customer and is not accountable for what other individual players do that just happen to be in the same alliance. What would you say if some guy in your corp was botting, you did not know it but suddenly CCP rolls in and negs your wallet because you are associated with a botter. That can happen to you. I have seen many bots in small miner corps in Highsec and the CEO did not know about them. So think first before you ask for such a change. If such a thing would be introduced it would not be a nullsec only thing as there is no such thing as corps are not tied to any regions of space anyway.
Please do keep up, they where clearly identified as botts when a hero from the New Order killed several of them with the whole fleet reacting to it only after hours while mining the whole time.
Summer sadness, summer whine. Those Praxies aren’t tanky, you can gank 'em. Wazz up?
Check the ‘what to do’ guide…
First if Hisec bots do any real damage to minerals its only going to be because of moon mining. That or a total lack of CCP even looking for them which by there numbers I am pretty sure they are.
Hopefully botters are more prone to bot in hisec but it is highly doubtful since the mechanics of EvE with much more increased prices of ore, a abundance of ore, and a dumb local chat that lets you know whos coming for 20 systems in any direction while having such a limited number of people that are there to begin with. One of these things is not like the other and its Nullsec.
Sure you can say every corp is going to have a random botter and you cant tell if they are. But I am pretty sure there is a very distinguishable line of “inability to tell” to just “looking the other way”. Its time CCP stops this carrot carrot carrot ■■■■■■■■ and moves to stick since apparently EvE people wont report them otherwise.
Negative consequences will alter behavior more than anything anyday.
Current requirements to be a renter.
Do you have isk? Done.
What you couldn’t add has a ■■■■■■■ pulse too it?
What exactly happens to a Nullsec alliance when one of their renter corps is found botting in mass? Nothing they find another renter. That’s some strong game mechanics right there.
No one has to destroy EvE to kill it, CCP will do it themselves by being more carebear than Hisecers. Please show me what country I can assist with someone committing a horrible crime and the police look the other way. It does even fit in lore, its just appeasing assholes.
It doesn’t really matter what you think is the case and how jalousie you are about nullsec people. If such a rule would be implemented it would hit everyone and they would adapt much faster to it than any highsec corp. This would not end the way you think
Please show me any game in history that has long term been successful that was light on botting.
Show me a botters paradise and ill show you a dead game.
I don’t say they should be light on botting, on the contrary I said CCP should invest more resources to stop botting beacause that is their job and they are the only one that can do it anyway.
I just said your idea is stupid, but there are other options. Botting isn’t a recent problem and so far it was always present but not to a detrimental degree, which means CCP did a good job at fighting them. What we see now is in my opinion a direct consequence of their reduced staff and that has to change again.