Alpha State End Game Mission Ship

[Typhoon, Missioner]
Damage Control II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Ballistic Control System II
100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
X-Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster
Enduring Multispectrum Shield Hardener
Copasetic Compact Shield Boost Amplifier
Copasetic Compact Shield Boost Amplifier
‘Arbalest’ Heavy Missile Launcher
Drone Link Augmentor I
‘Arbalest’ Heavy Missile Launcher
‘Arbalest’ Heavy Missile Launcher
‘Arbalest’ Heavy Missile Launcher
‘Arbalest’ Heavy Missile Launcher
‘Arbalest’ Heavy Missile Launcher
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Large EM Shield Reinforcer I
Republic Fleet Berserker x4
Hobgoblin I x5
Inferno Heavy Missile x5000
Scourge Heavy Missile x5000
Nova Heavy Missile x5000
Mjolnir Heavy Missile x5000

No.

Simply no.

You are using an M-Size Weapon System on a Battleship, you are not using Damage Mods and you are not using any application modules. This is not a good fit and for sure it cannot run “end game missions” in any reasonable timeframe.

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^This, plus what do you mean by Alpha endgame mission ship? Alpha’s cannot take Level 4 missions and a battleship will almost always be sub-optimal for Level 3 missions.

An end game mission ship for Alphas will most likely be a faction battlecruiser or pirate cruiser.

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Using Heavy Missiles on the Typhoon seems a bit ineffective, as you leave its second hull bonus, which is Cruise Missle and Torpedo explosion velocity, unused on the table.

If you can survive the content you do with a Battlecruiser, the Cyclone (better active shield tank) and Cyclone Fleet Issue (better application) will cost you a fraction of the Typhoon.
You lost a LOT of potential damage sacrificing all the low slots to be capstable. But I did not see you using your shield booster much… there is a lot of untapped potential there.

A Cyclone will do very similar damage compared to your current fitting with Heavy Missiles, but be much faster moving from gate to gate and in warp, saving lots of time on that end.

Here is an example of a Cyclone:

[Cyclone, Alpha BC]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II

10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Enduring Multispectrum Shield Hardener
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
Core Probe Launcher I
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
Small I-ax Enduring Remote Armor Repairer
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher

Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
Medium EM Shield Reinforcer I
Medium Thermal Shield Reinforcer I



Republic Fleet Valkyrie x5

Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8
Inferno Heavy Missile x1000
Scourge Heavy Missile x1000
Nova Heavy Missile x5000
Mjolnir Heavy Missile x1000 

On your comments about drones:
Hobgoblins are the easy “all-around choice” that hit thermal. It’s a decent weakness on most NPCs, but only in some cases also the best choice. What is the best damage to apply can be seen when you show info in the NPC you shoot.
I believe it was 2 or so years ago that CCP did an update to show the damage profile for NPCs in there. You don’t need to guess, you can look it up.

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I think it is better if you aim for skilling into a Gila considering it will be not just useful for L3 missions (“End Game” mission content for Alphas as L4 are Omega restricted) and DED sites but also to run some suitable Abyssal filaments as well.

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Seconding the Gila suggestion, with a proper fit, the Gila can do all T4 abyssals except darks reliably as an Alpha. Makes it fairly easy to go Omega from there.

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My eyes My eyes! Sweet goodness! My eyes, why did you do this? Why is this even a thing??

@Aiko_Danuja please I never ping you but put that ship out of its misery I beg you.

I see fits like this on websites but for someone to MAKE A VIDEO OF THIS… I don’t know what to say.

Someone, ANYONE kill that ship to put it out of its miserable existence.

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Instead, Can I bring a Drake?

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thanks for the feedback, folks. I’ll definitely see if cruise missile will deal the damage i need for lvl3s

i’ll need a few more days until the next free SP for login bonus happens and then i’ll try again with the fit. pretty sure i have the cpu and power to just slap them on.

Build something around a Navy Battlecruiser. Its the way better solution for L3s for way less money. Cyclone Fleet performs exceptionally well for example, but the others are also really nice bang for the buck. Forget Battleships for these Missions, too expensive & too slow, and with using L-size weapons you won’t apply well on most of the targets (RHM fits being the expection).

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My god if that’s the only thing you pulled from the entire thread was to switch to CRUISE MISSLES?? (They wont deal more damage)

Please follow the calm advice of @Syzygium because I am not calm enough to recommend anything.

The real B’Elanna Torres from Star Trek Voyager would be appalled to see that kind of ship engineering you are doing.

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part 2 - after getting the unallocated SP from login reward.

oh, and i looked at all your other suggestions. but, honestly, this is about Alpha State players wanting an ‘end state’ mission boat that wasn’t bling nor costing a billion for the faction hull. Nor do they want navy issue BCs with a third of the tank (same resists) and half the speed, literally. equivalent range, equivalent damage with heavy missiles.

oh, and side note. Did the person who suggested heavy missiles don’t get a bonus from the typhoon just forget, assume, or was it a deliberate troll lie?

Remember, this is about players who want to play for free, who enjoy the pve, and who’d like to fly a battlehsip while having fun doing combat missions…fun. you know, “fun”

What??! You know how LOW ISK lv 3 security missions are? Why on earth are you using a battleship against NPCs that don’t even hurt you?? Why are you using capacitor relays to get more cap? You don’t need a capstable ship??

You can use a nice battlecrusier and run lv3s WAY faster than that. AND cheaper. What are you rambling about this “end state” alpha ship?? “End State” alpha ship would be something with bling.

It’s about application and hitting the targets effectively large guns and large missiles cannot kill frigates. Whereas medium/small guns can one shot NPC frigates. Are you trolling us? Is this one huge troll??!

Help @Syzygium please help before I get a stroke. Sweet goodness I think I got a migraine from seeing that post.

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You never actually spoke in the OP what your goal is. CCP removed L4s from alpha gameplay. When they did that, they should have removed battleships.

Bigger doesnt always mean better in EVE. As far as L3 missions, you MAY encounter one maybe 2 NPC battleships in a mission. But most of the ships that youll encounter will be frigates and cruisers. Unless you use certain T2 missiles, you wont get a very good damage application towards the smaller ships if you use cruise on a b.s.

Gila would be one of the best ships to skill into for L3s or the gnosis or drake. If you are intent on using a battleship id recommend praxis

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it’s fascinating how the heavy missile boat took just as long to run the mission, plus the bonus room. insta-popping destroyers is fun…but, you’d think fast moving dessies wouldn’t get their paint scratched by cruise missiles. shrug oh well, the wonders of PvE i suppose.

Why are you posting this?

What need are you fulfilling?? If you wanted to make a diary or RP there is a section for that?

This is literally misinformation about how to properly fit a ship in the game. I beg anyone who sees this thread or videos to not fit a ship like how OP did. Listen to the advice of people like @Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras or @Syzygium

I am fully convinced this is one huge troll for someone to film this for 1hr + and OP has 0 willingness to have an open mind to how real PVE ships are fitted.

Heavy Missiles are neither Cruiser Missiles nor Torpedos.
If fit Heavy Missiles on a Typhoon, the explosion velocity bonus you gain from the Minmatar Battleship skill won’t apply.

To be honest, I was a bit amused reading that.

Have fun with your Phoon. It’s a good-looking ship.

theyll get the ROF increase however with the heavy missile.
edit… whoops, paid attention and it said rapid… so yea no bonus for heavy missile, but rapid heavy.

the typhoon gets a bonus to “RAPID” Heavy missiles launchers, you fit heavy missile launchers. Please read the text better

Thanks for mentioning it.
I too have missed the “Rapid” in the Phoons description text and looked it up to be sure.

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