Alphas and Free to Play

It doesn’t work like that. If you log out safely in space with no aggression timers, your ship warps off and disappears. It can’t be found or destroyed…

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Really? Wow… Okay, I didn’t know that. Thanks!

That’s fine though. It should then appear directly beside you when you log back in. You in Pod next to ship.

Point is, Alpha Freighterchars are used to “evacuate” Assets from Citadels. They are just filled with a million m³ of stuff and then logged out. And when they log in the Citadel is very well be destroyed, but the stuff is safe.

Also Capitals can be logged out (while omega) on a safe, the char then becoming a free “sitter alpha”, being indestructible in “logout state”. If needed the sitters log in, eject from the caps and Omegas (not nessessarily from the same guy) can board. Can be done on a deepsave or under a POS forcefield.

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Yet you don’t ( as with 90% of the respondents here ) seem to have any problem basing an entire opinion on not having those numbers.

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That sounds like a legal exploit. If CCP allows it, why not leave it?

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Much like ghost training, it’s likely that they don’t have the coding ability to fix it without completely ■■■■■■■ up every thing else.

When they do figure it out, it will go from being a feature to an exploit faster than Thanos removed half the universe.

Mr Epeen :sunglasses:

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No more like 100% of the people here, unless you work for CCP. I am basing it on my personal experiences, unlike your crystal ball, Ouija Board, bones, and entrails. I know for a fact, I would have spent less in one year here by subbing omega. Being the PLEX Alpha that I am, I would guess there must be others who spend a lot more than I do. Just as QuakeGod doesn’t only sub omega, they buy PLEX for cash as well.

I am not here to blow my own horn, but most of you have stated elsewhere, you wait for the sales to buy omega for 1 year. A 40% sale on that is only 200 EUR? While 405 EUR gets you 12K PLEX bundle or go for broke on the 20K PLEX at 625 EUR. Enough cash spent all in one shot for 3 omega accounts for 1 year.

What this really sounds like to me, is an elitist mentally at work. “Get rid of the alphas because they are ALL poor people who play for free. I am special and entitled to play this game, because I am omega.” Yet 100% of the alphas don’t play for free. There is an unknown amount of revenues, we have no idea what they pay into the game. I know from the referral program, most new players buy both PLEX and omega. Also roughly 25 to 30 percent buy anything at all. I don’t have the numbers on the quantity of their purchase or if they continued to buy beyond the initial purchase. This is those poor new alpha players you want to kick from the game. At the same time complaining about the cost of your sub and bragging about being an omega.

I paid by the yr. 3 toons. Enough for me. Spring, summer, fall timing.

Smart player! There is an awful lot of gameplay available for those that do!

I abuse that already.

Here is where the problem lies.

EVE 2.0!

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I spend a fair amount each month. I buy Omega and PLEX for one account. I have no alts. I would never play Alpha because i like my ships and skill points. I used to play this game long before there was an Alpha. I see no point in only enjoying 1% of this game.

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Yeah I specifically recall an article by CCP that they only hire people who cannot program. They ignore all of the great many people who know what they’re doing.

CCP has good coders

The coders aren’t the issue. The code is.

Anyone who understood it left decades ago.

Mr Epeen :sunglasses:

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Sorry bro but I don’t believe that at all… Especially since CCP constantly makes changes to ‘The Code’… I’m talking about everything from ships to skyboxes…

I think the real issue is that CCP is too lazy and doesn’t want to invest the time or effort as well as being cheap and doesn’t want to pay someone to do it…

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Don’t take this as trying to convince you just providing a different perspective for your consideration to expand your understanding: you can play as full on Alpha without much difference if your playstyle doesn’t require the Omega features.

I play both solo and Alpha (which is double the additional difficulty in a game like EVE) for the above reason and I would feel it was wasted money to spend on something I neither need nor would ever use, as well as don’t sign in enough to warrant it.

I also like the additional challenge these bring so this way having a harder time is something I have fun with and see it as a problem to be solved that is part of my gameplay instead of always having the best tools available, overcoming these additional obstacles or even failing due to them is more exciting to me personally.

In the end just a game and losing stuff is part of the experience, just as I mention it in my guide. I rather have it this way than have it much easier and be bored of it, it is not the outcome that matters (to me) instead the journey itself.

Of course this is just my personal way of playing EVE and likely the less common way of doing it. Just thought I share this perspective as it can provide nuance to why someone might prefer to play as Alpha and show that one can play without Omega and still have fun (why else one would play a game) or even more fun that way depending on their playstyle.

It definitely is not for everyone nor even most though.

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The best way to improve gameplay for Alphas without stepping on the toes of paying customers is to slash the price of a subscription in half.

After half a decade of play and half a decade of inactivity, there is no reason to play on an account under Alpha anyway because it still cripples any serious gameplay. Subscriptions that run out while you are not playing are still the norm in 2025, but having the time to play an ancient MMO with the progression speed of a snail, unfortunately is not.

Slash skill training times in half as well across the board. Sure, that might make some old players grumpy because they paid (or is it played?) more to get those skills. But in the modern video game landscape it’s the norm a game becomes a lot cheaper ánd further developed a few months / years after release anyway.

I think it’s nothing less then a small miracle that EVE is still alive today. I dare not speculate in what state, but personally all I needed was a look behind the curtain of Null politics to consider myself “no longer capable of making upward carreer moves” in EVE. So take my suggestion with a grain of salt, at this point I’m just an outsider that would like to play the game once in a while… just not for the current asking price.

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What about a time based subscription model (parallel to or instead of Omega) where you pay an amount of $ or PLEX for a certain amount of Omega play time (could be a bit or even much more more expensive total for the same amount as an Omega month but still less than if you pay a full Omega for the few hours you sign in a month), which is only consumed when you are playing the game (not character screen but actually beyond that signed in to a character)? :thinking:

Edit: I don’t think this new subscription should give Omega rewards when it comes to daily login rewards and such and same for other features that would be an abuse of the system (for example skill extraction, PI and so on).

has already been proposed, in some way, by less influential characters than you.

It’s not a problem with the game who adopts your style, the problem is that there are hundreds of people every year who try the game and quit after a few months or weeks or days.
They are potential future Eve players who test the game and are compared to 15M sp (!!) alpha players with years of experience.

And people accuse ganking of being the cause of the hemorrhaging of players (lol). Newbies (real newbies) don’t even perceive ganking.

Alphas and newbies need to be handled differently.

That is not what I meant. As I said, I do not want to play a nerfed version of my character. And by that I do mean nerfed in any kind of way. My sole point is that the game is getting old, stale, and increased in price instead of decreased over the years. And I’m starting to realize that (ironically) it’s the sunken cost fallacy that is keeping this ship afloat, that the game is designed in such a way that making it easier or cheaper for people to make some progress, is halted by the very people that already made the progress - out of sheer spite, jealousy, or a sense of being treated unfairly when someone else gets the product a little cheaper.

“The only way to win is to quit” then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I don’t know if we’d see double the Omega sign-ups to offset the revenue hit - do you? I’m thinking a +50% signup (at best) - leaving a huge revenue shortfall.

An Omega sub is $20 USD (only $15 USD if you already have an Omega account). Let’s be honest here, if you can’t afford $15 to $20 USD for a month’s worth of entertainment, there are probably better things you need to be doing with your life than playing video games…

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