Sweet Jesus. This thread is about as healthy for critical thinking capacity as drinking mercury.
I feel sorry for the poor ISD that will inevitably need to delete this post.
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That you know of.
This is far from the first time a stakeholder voices it, or similar lines. See CSM derelict.
That is pretty much what he said, once you cut away the hyperbole and marketing speak.
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A lot of people hate nullsec alliances. Myself included. We can imagine a nullsec without huge alliances and a bunch of slaves working for you. Given that I would like to see your entire premise fail, it is not surprising at all that there is an inability for constructive discussion here.
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I will bring an input about new players, because I helped quite a lot of newbros in corporations and in the Rookie Channel:
- they couldn’t find the so called wealth
- they tried going null sec, got blobbed and lost the little ISK they had
- they started gringing for ISK, then got burned and left because EVE became a second job
That is all, ok?
There’s people still around and they frequently thanked me for keeping things interesting for them in EVE otherwise they would have quit the game, these are their true words and I most definitely drag them here to the forum so they testify this.
The wealth was stuck down there in null sec being guarded by angry bears.
Now the wealth is spread all around and even solo players who just run Abyss do not have to bend the knee to some space feudal lords… they can find ISK anywhere!
Because the ISK has been spread and new activities came out, people found stuff to do, how couldn’t the null bears not undock and find stuff ?
They were pampered by easy ISK for years and it’s not so easy finding slaves nowadays, because everybody is free now and they don’t have to bend the knee for some toxic null sec miners gloating about how much ISK they have.
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I really appreciate the candidness of your response. But it also means that I will work harder to ensure what you want doesn’t happen. I hope you can respect that. 
You guys hold all the cards; it shouldn’t be difficult for you to perpetuate your interests.
Holy ■■■■, I started reading my own messages, I didn’t realize I was that relentless, I mean I had an idea about it… but my comments are just so on point in such a way that I will have to bring an alt here just to like my own messages.
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Jee… vicious!
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No one can run Burners continuously, that is random and this number is oversized.
Abyssals is dangerous af, but you can run anywhere, why not buy at Jita and the alliance jump freighter brings to you?
Incursions is “safe”, people lose a lot of ships and they get ganked while travelling too.
Look at this 110 bil kill, plus the pod that should be around 9 bil
High sec has no response fleet, no intel channel, everybody will steal you even your “friends” with their alts.
Also the system index for industry is bad, nearly all stations use T1 rigs, there’s fees everywhere.
The PI is garbage, there’s empire tax to pay of 5% plus the poco tax.
Mining is garbage too.
You can’t take gates with your dread.
and so on
Highec has benefits and costs, it’s just like living in Los Angeles.
Null sec gotta have benefits and costs too.
No place in New Eden should be perfect.
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Good luck with your mercury drinking, I would advice against it thou.
Rookies, not members of a nullsec alliance, venture into nullsec “looking for wealth” and “get shot instead”. Is that what you are saying ? And you are also saying that that is not okay ? Did I get that right ?
And you think that instanced pve is some kind of revolution away from the sandbox, a belated form of Justice against the evil nullsec players ? (I thought it was the anti-gankers and the anti-campers and the anti-pvp’ers who were pure evil, but maybe I’m mixing up threads, lmao).
Please don’t instruct new players any more until you get your facts about the game straight. Thank you.
P.S. you should have defended what little NRDS space existed in the game, in some oddball region called Providence. You DO know what NRDS, NBSI and NPSI mean, I hope, and that you pass that on to everyone trying to start playing EvE, rather than tell them how toxic Reddit and nullsec is, and how wrong they all are.
Since I am Benevolent I will help you:
They were trying to figure out the game, but the good stuff was in null sec under a bunch of losers supervision.
That’s what I am saying, now that there’s ISK everywhere the game is better, this is more newbro friendly, in the past it was too null bear friendly.
That’s what made people leave EVE, the game was set to appease a bunch of null morons.
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So you want everything served on a plate again … Not going to happen ! It’s your kind that took us to where we are today in the first place… one step closer to disaster .
When your kind will dissapear , maybe the game will have a chance to regenerate and we’ll see nice numbers of players again . Your primitive way of thinking is toxic , so do us a favor and step down… what Eve needs is a new generation of leaders , what will happen afterwards is really not relevant…
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Null sec is riskier already, look at MER destruction. More things getting blown up in null compared to high sec (including abyssals deaths which are right there in the MER) despite LESS players being in null:
0_produced_vs_mining_vs_destroyed.png (1920×1080) (ctfassets.net)
Null has the trade offs, just not the rewards. That is why null vets are either rolling high sec accounts or, for the most part, walking away to play a more enjoyable game.
Cant they simply fly there? Its not like theyre going to lose their ship and pod for entering HS unlike the other way around.
High sec can be 30+ jumps away, Jita for some of null is 70+ jumps away. When null wars are active youll be in pvp fleets most nights on your subcap main and have FAX, dread, titan/super on standby on the undock. You don’t just move pilots all that way to null as you could get a Discord ping to fleet up at any time. You either jump clone to jita and back or you create dedicated high sec pilots (which is what most do in my experience).
Your warped view of null sec is hilarious dude, I wish you’d come fly in null, it’s riskier than you realise. There is a reason why by far the most destruction takes place in null despite less players playing in null compare to high sec. When the game was active and I lived in Eso, trying to fly to high sec through Stain and low sec would usually end up in being whelped, you don’t just fly through enemy sov and null-low, low-high and NPC null connections/space like it’s nothing. We had the bloody Russians in Stain hounding us daily with dreadbombs and subcap roams.
Use Pochven filaments and Jump Clones.
Seriously, you cant mock me when the obvious solutions already exist.
As mentioned already several times, my application is in.
Are they still allowed to play?
As a side note, they just got banned from WoT, which is pretty funny.
Maybe the sovs not getting to use their credit cards would be part of a drop off in EvE’s numbers too?
It’s those capitals and structures possibly.
The graph is vague, we can see that null sec produce more, mine more and has way more destruction.
But I gotta tell you, I am literally a Jita trade alt and sometimes i put a big batch of stuff on sell orders and null buyers buy it all in a click… so all that stuff I sell will be destroyed in null sec.
There’s some intricacies that the graph will not provide, there’s capitals, old stocks being burned, abandoned stuff and stuff being displaced.
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Oof didn’t take long for the misogyny to rear it’s head. I guess the fact that some of the girls are foreign to you eh bruv 
Welcome to the internet You seem a bit sensitive mate. Maybe Stardew is a better fit for you?
It’s ok bro, the truth hurts You just aren’t accustomed to people who actually like EVE
Oh. So there isn’t a problem then. And his whole post is for nothing but personal gain since as you say, making ISK in null isn’t a problem. So that isn’t why they aren’t undocking.
Got it
Cept the people not undocking is hurting his wallet cause they ain’t earning huh? Hm. Seems like a personal reason to me
This is my main bruv
Let’s not front like this dude is your main
Oh no. They lying They know
The bias is super obvious as well.
ROFL. Yea sure buddy
That’s why peeps be raking in billions running abyssals in the blue donut with absolutely zero risk from other players. Quafe please
The jig is already up my dude. Null peeps brag all the time how easy it is to make money. So either they are lying or you are lying. And you already admitted that your mighty alliance has no problems with ISK.
So that isn’t the reason people aren’t undocking
ROFL, safer.
Bro, you know we know right? The blue donut is far safer than HS LOL.
Cause reasons
Yes. That’s what their claiming
People are doing it in null and raking in billions my boy. Or do you just suck at the game?
Also it’s easier to multi-box 2 dessies and farm the slightly lower tiers. Or so I was told by the null sec guy doing it and raking in billions in a day
There is less chance of getting caught in the blue donut.
You realize abyss runners make lucrative gank targets right?
Nothing. Goons have already adapted and are raking in billions doing this.
I guess these homies are just behind the curve
Sure you have bro. Sure you have
ROFL ROFL ROFL. Are you new to EVE or
I’m just embarrassed for you my guy. Imagine thinking zkills is the end all be all of EVE.
Yennoe, there are times where I’m tempted to like try out null full time. But then I meet neckbeards like you and the other homie. Something tells me I would not gel
Oooh. So you’re bad at the game. Why didn’t you just say that?
Now, I also support main posting. However, this isn’t a hill you’re going to win. Esp once they introduced alpha accounts. Even if she did post with her main, you wouldn’t take her serious because you cannot understand.
Not really. You realize you could just go and make a fight right? De-stand a smaller alliance and start blapping.
But you won’t
My guy, your homie already let his misogyny slip. It just promotes the idea more that null is full of sweaty neckbeards, screaming into the mic and taking pixels much too seriously.
Except you know she does. Which is why you’re dodging so hard
No, it’s about choices as Aisha has already pointed out. Choices that the rest of EVE makes on a daily. And now that you’ve finally have come to the point of having to make it, you’re freaking out
I want to be a full time low sec pirate. It was my life for many years. CCP abstaively murdered that playstyle for the most part. So I’ve had to adapt.
LOL, and here is the real rub.
You just want the biggest ISK activities to be in null. So you’re being dishonest. You already know people are raking in bils in null with abyssals. You just want to secure it all for yourself. I see now
Also it confirms your HS alt has been ganked before and you’re salty cause you can’t adapt. Here’s a free hint bruv, don’t do the abyssals 4 jumps from Jita Cliff will find you
LOL, you got proof of that or. Seems to me you don’t run abyssals much either. Cause if you did, you’d know
Null abyssal running is eleventybillion times safer than HS abyssal running. And this dude knows this. He’s just fronting and you’re playing into his hands
But I thought money wasn’t a problem for your alliance? So they are too poor for SRP? As are you? As an 03 player? Huh.
Which is it? Are you guys mighty with trillions of ISK or just poors?
LOL, what is this excuse right here? I’d argue in good faith but I can’t cause alts LOL.
Oh. So there’s no problem then. You make ISK in HS, pipe down to null and hunt people right?
Goons are literally printing ISK doing abyssals in complete safety in null. Maybe the other alliances haven’t caught up yet
And he just said null has the best WHs for what he’s saying. Face it bruv, you’ve been exposed.
I guess you drew the short straw to keep bumping this thread for the nullbears huh?
Of course you want it closed. They don’t delete tho. So your words will still be here. Sorry bruv, can’t back out now
Exactly. The ISK was the hook. Now that it’s gone, they are finding they actually gotta yennoe, lead.
How? You already admitting to not undocking in null and basically playing in HS
Sounds like better times. Too bad players ruined it for you
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