[ARC] Semiosis

This certainly works a bit better with respect to the star (as compared to having no hydrogen left). I believe that the faint protium is referring to the fact that K stars “have extremely weak hydrogen lines, if they are present at all.”

I do hope that Pore Vitium is a reference to “time sin” because that would be nifty.

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something to do with wormhole, like pore, hole in the skin.

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Ranzaborg is the phrase I find interesting. High house? Star fortress? Many interesting possible interpretations.

This time I used my End of Mankind Sacrificial Maller (point of clarification: no slaves were in the cargo hold; the ship is the sacrifice) to try and summon Simargl in Hatori. I presume that Annisir and Makoto can confirm that no winged hound of destruction appeared.

A little tangential tidbit that I have noticed on my attempts to Awaken the Hound is that you do not appear to get notified of your own death by CONCORD if you perish Beyond The Bubble. You do however get notified if you allow your warp engine to collapse.

With respect to Kostorg and Ranzaborg, I am again drawn to -something-Org(anization), while acknowledging the language-specific nature of that construction.

Addendum: I originally read “immanence: flame” as “imminence: flare” and never really updated my noodle. Which is a bit naughty, given my theosophical metaphysicery. I do not maintain that the Universe is the Divine, or that the Divine can be known at all (it is the Search, darlings), but still. The Triglavians do seem to attach metaphysical terms to their work.

Any star could be tautologically described as “immanence: flame,” but they have gone to the trouble of including this classification in their metrics. There must be at least some stars which do not rate, or why bother having the metric at all?

Thermokinesis of 2.6 could be a scale of how easy or hard it is to manipulate the molecules in the area. The belo-cherno scale seems to match up with our luminosity scale for stars. Immanence flame, protium transition, and provetium trace seem to refer to the status of the the system on the quantum level. Immanence flame doesn’t really fit that model but immanence is a bit of an odd word here.

Liminal boundary is interesting. Is it referring to where abyss space meets up with known space at a natural point because of the topology of the system? Is it a triglaivian made boundary using something like a stable filament? I’m thinking that there exists natural points where abyss and known space merge. This would somewhat explain how they got into abyss space in the first place. The fact that it’s number 557 means that there is likely a lot of these areas just like our gate network. I want to see what the next system scan will be.

Profound matter is another interesting line. It makes me wonder if the matter is something that is needed to make these points of intersection work or if it’s just a material they need.

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Is it possible that these “Liminal” entries are designations for stable Abyssal gateways?

Turns out translating something directly before going to sleep might lead to some errors.

Thank you Evi for the corrections.

Regarding the classification of stars, it perfectly makes sense. Triglavians use singularities in their ships, gates, and defense towers. A singularity is a dead star, isn’t it?

Is Abyssal space perhaps literally a blackhole? I mean, it’s where Zero-Point Condensates come from, apparently pieces of a blackhole to create small singularities from. Using stars as a potential gateway to Abyss space (i.e. incursions) makes perfect sense to strike from any system, including WH’s.

However, this would mean a star in a system would be turned into Abyss space forever. It’s not like you turn a singularity into a normal star again.

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Would the PERUN Directive perhaps show how the star falls within the boundaries of a certain Abyss deadspace, and thus could be unlocked under the right conditions to open a port? But then why is the Abyss space that ‘square’.

And the middle part may be after all a simulation of the universe, and how certain systems may fall within the boundaries and move on again.

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A bit off point, but I must report I made a visit into Sentinel Drifter Wormhole yesterday, with intention to test how much Drifters are interested in aquiring capsuleer bodies.

I brought with me over 200 corpses and launched 116 of them in space around one of the anomalies present. Shortly after that one of Drifter Battleships came in, it rushed to the spot and quickly scooped one of the bodies, but then seemingly lost interest. It was orbiting rest of the pile, scanning.

Two Lancers came and gone, I think they each picked up one body, scanned for a while and left.

I was observing them for about an hour. At some point I recalculated bodies and there were 112/116 still in space.

My initial belief was they use bodies to reanimate and use to clone themselves. But I now coming to believe they collect trophies or use bodies in some research, and their interest in human bodies is overestimated.

Its also possible that my choice of time or place of experiment was poor and I could get different result elsewhere. Open to suggestions.

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This more-or-less lines up with what we knew: the Drifters’ interest in Capsuleer corpses is nothing serious, perhaps just a passing curiosity.

It would be ironic if they were salvaging implants.

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I was going to write a long post about how Black Holes work, but it will suffice to say that you don’t know how Black Holes work. Sure, we can use Singularities for travel, like the Wormhole Network or the rifts we create to enter the Abyss, but… It should be scientifically impossible to create an area of physical space inside of a Black Hole, and if that’s what the Triglavians are doing, well, ■■■■ all, I’m pretty sure that’s so far beyond us it might not even be worth thinking about. Zero-Point energy is something almost completely different, by the way, but that’s not important.

The key point here is that if the Abyss is space inside of Black Holes, I don’t think our science can even start guessing at how they make that possible. What’s more likely, though I’m pretty sure it’s also beyond us, is manipulating natural singularities to make quantum tunnels, or rather, turning Black Holes into Wormholes, like giant Abyss rifts… which could make for some great travel usage if there were any Black Hole systems connected to the Jump-Gate network.

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This may sound a bit crazy but the trinary streams give indications that the collective pulled the ship schematics for every ship we know out of some data storage they had.Could they be constantly shifting and changing designs based on the needs? It does seem that they can make almost anything to deal with new threats or challenges and no shortages of materials in sight

The way you describe it, I think it’s more likely they were “living below their means”, so to speak. If the Triglavians pulled all their ship designs out of storage, what that says to me is that they were getting kinda comfortable in the Abyss and just didn’t need some of their stronger ships… until they came under attack by the Drifters, and then we Capsuleers.

Isn’t it more like they invited us in for ‘testing’? I’m pretty sure all the information we have on them has been specifically fed to us. We’ve learnt nothing they didn’t want us to know.

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It is bold. I do like bold. Bold! Inverse horizons expanding at 110% the speed of light! The creative power of Zero. Zero, the most important numerological number. Zero, the existence of which cannot be proven; and yet, without which we would not exist.

The Emptiness Field, the Expansion, shock waves in Kappa Itself!.. it is all beyond comprehension; consequently, anything can happen within those imperceptibly small boundaries which encompass all of existence.

In my sacrificial journeys, I have been exploring the geometry of Abyssal space.

You mention square, and I was myself curious if that were the case. But in this most recent sacrifice, I made an effort to follow the boundary of universal constants. It does appear to curve. Ironically, the spectacular planet with its deep crimson cast was a bit inconvenient with regard to the path I had chosen. But I did have to keep adjusting my course slightly to avoid passing out of Our Constants and into evaporative oblivion.

But the bubble of twenty minute visits is clearly within a horizon of some form.

Cross the horizon, and even CONCORD forgets to write. What has created - dare I say expanded? - these bubble of Our Constants within the Other Constants? There is no sign of anything with such power inside of the bubble itself.

Has there been a catastrophic cosmic event which created a foam of these bubbles in some unknowable layer of the Empty Field? Are we inside the horizon crust of the astoundingly massive super massive black hole observed from certain wormhole systems? Hmmm.

To be candid, Jovians, Triglavians, Drifters, Sleepers, Talocan, Jung, and whoever came before all that noise are just different primates in different face masks who can’t think of anything better to do with their time than blinky lighting one another. Whooo carrrrres… They all just part of a Mankind that must End.

But the Abyss itself is pretty frickin cool.

I’m referring to our initial contacts with them. Yeah, they’ve been feeding us information, and that’s become steadily more obvious, but we were the ones who made First Contact. We were the ones who interacted first, when CONCORD entered the Abyss with its first scouting ships to try to figure out what had happened to all those fleets of damaged Drifters. That’s not even the point, though-

The point is that the Triglavians didn’t know we were coming. They were unprepared when we first met, though they’ve quickly taking the lead in our interactions. Thus, having to respond to Drifter and Capsuleer threats, which maybe aren’t so threatening right now, led them to pull old ship designs out of storage, as Dread Saboteur was suggesting.

Although one source describes Lirsautton as a small yellow star toward the end of main sequence, that is not correct. The star is actually classified K0V, “belo-cherno scale” .11. End of main sequence seems not very likely.

I wonder how many home systems are K type.

I’ve been examining the latest video, and conducting operations in the area around Hatori. The left hand part of the video looks like a 3 pass scanner and gives the input, the right hand part being the corresponding output. The middle part is interesting, reminds me of a murmuration which is a behavior exhibited by some birds and also swarms of insects. It might well be that instead of using conventional scanning technology the Triglavians use some kind of micro, or even, nano-probe system. Poses an issue in that Triglavian probes probably wouldn’t show up on D-Scan.
As to Hatori, which doesn’t appear to be that unique; the whole area is relatively quiet. Some of the larger corporations have stations, but not many, and there are very few capsuleer owned stations around there. A few systems have a concentration of structures, but Hatori and some of its close neighbors do not. There were also some active Unidentified Wormholes in the vicinity last night.

There you go guys - I wait for the translation :smiley: Just received it…

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