Bad guys bombed my Atron in Low Sec!

[Wallecctro_Firearrow]

Can i sue them if i find out their real life names?

[Scoots_Choco]

You can. Whether or not you will win is another question.

[Pix_Severus]

Only under Texas law.

[Mevatla_Vekraspek]

You need a good space lawyer.

[Ramona_McCandless]

For the total value of your loss.

Which is 0

[Dravick_Afterthought]

Of course not. You’re supposed to rage and whine incessantly about the terrible injustice of someone PvP’ing you in a PvP area of a PvP game, followed by rage-quitting Eve (but staying on the forums so you can keep complaining about a game you no longer even play).

[Karak_Terrel]

I recommend you get Internet detective Ripart Teg on the case right away!

[Aiko_Danuja]

Those low sec griefers!

[Entereen_Valcaltus]

Isn’t that what insurance is for?

[Harabec_Ojutai]

So I actually am an attorney, and I LOVE thinking about this from a legal perspective. I actually think you probably COULD make an argument for establishing damages in EvE, although I think it would ultimately be unsuccessful due to the restrictions on RMT activities.

Even if you could prove damages, you have no cognizable theory for the suit in the first place. Since conversion/assault/battery/etc. are explicitly allowed and expected within the framework of the game, there’s no way to establish any sort of tort theory of recovery. You implicitly (maybe explicitly–I’ve not read through all of EvE’s TOS) consent to those activities by logging in.

Still really cool. I think it would be awesome to apply my legal knowledge to EvE, but with the lack of any real written legal structure there’s not much for me to do

[Syeed_Ameer_Ali]

@Mevatla_Vekraspek

You need a good space lawyer.

It would take Babatunde B Babatunde himself to win such a tricky case, and I believe he is retired.

[Andre_Matar]

@Dravick_Afterthought

of a PvP game

Why do you think EVE is a PvP game?

[Karak_Terrel]

@Harabec_Ojutai

I think it would be awesome to apply my legal knowledge to EvE

You could start by reading the EULA where it says that all ingame items are the property of CCP and not the player.

But anyway, how much $ would it cost Op to get his 20k (or something) ISK back?

[Karak_Terrel]

@Syeed_Ameer_Ali

Babatunde B Babatunde

Classic

[Harabec_Ojutai]

Indeed, and if I were actually trying to argue a case, that’s literally the first thing I would read.

As to your second question, for the sake of argument, let’s assume we’re talking about something that could actually happen. The first step would be determining the real money value of the ISK at the time of the “injury.” Generally court fees alone are going to be between $100-$500, so there would be no reason to pursue anything worth less than that.

Otherwise, I don’t really know. I’m not a tort lawyer, so I can’t speak to their fee structure. Many tort lawyers work on a contingency basis, so they get a percentage of the damages recovered.

[Iceacid_Frostpacker]

Hate when that happens.