Balancing Hi-Sec Freighter Bump Mechanics

One account or one ship cannot gank a freighter.

read what I wrote again.

I said you need two accounts.

You’d still be wrong. Bump ships aren’t great gank ships.

Do the math for us.

Shouldn’t be hard right?

I keep what I am saying. You only need two accounts to gank a freigther.

Now if you modify what I am saying, of course you can’t understand what I mean.
But that’s dishonest of you.

its not ganking

it is.

thank you for this constructive argument.

Unfortunately, there is no way you can actually support what you are saying with any evidence.

So you are either being deliberately misleading, or have just never validated what you are writing. If you had, you’d see you are wrong.

I am just correcting someone who said gankers need 20 accounts.

You are just being dishonnest on purpose, as usual.
Ganking a freighter in HS (in .5) only needs two accounts.

its not ganking. Concord isnt involved. You’re confusing elite solo 1v1 honorable bushido pvp with ganking.

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Rubbish. Don’t be a child.

You are just flat out wrong and there is nothing dishonest about that.

Dishonesty isn’t sitting with me here.

I am not confusing anything, and my answer was perfectly on point with the argument being used.

I keep saying that you only need two accounts to gank a freighter. If you want to duel him, you only need one account (and a story to make him duel you).

I did not affirm you need two ships, I affirmed you need two accounts.
Of course if you only needed one polarized vindi that would cut the cost enough . You need more than one.

You definitely are. I know exactly what you’re talking about. That is not ganking. That is elite solo honorable bushido combat with no deception involved, 100% willing, 100% consensual pvp. It is far different than ganking.

Then you are in denial.

You are in denial. When the space italian rolls up onto the gate, people just keep trying to start fights with me. It has nothing to do with ganking.

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I don’t care. I was talking about ganking a freighter. And I still affirm that all is needed is two account, not 20.

As am I. You can’t gank a freighter with two accounts. Key word here being “gank”.

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Try explaining yourself.

How does one bumper and a single DPS ship gank a freighter?

What she seems to be trying to say is that you can somehow shoot, wait out the 15 minute criminal timer, jump in another polarized Vindi and go shoot again. Wait out the criminal timer. Rinse repeat.

Thus, only 2 accounts, but multiple ships.

It cant work. It’s just not possible to do.

I did not say a single DPS ship. Please stick to the exact words I used. Of course you need several DPS ships. But the bumper can keep the freighter tackled between criminal flags expirations. and the vindi has enough fitting room to add a 500mn+point+double web. now since the bumper can put the freighter out of previous aggression(I think it’s 150 km), you don’t even need to make concord despawn. and the shield of a freighter is lower than the damage dealt by the vindy, meaning the vindi will just grind through armor at each aggression.

THAT is all you NEED in term of accounts to gank a freighter. Of course it will take time and money. Note you can do it with a mega, or maybe taloses to reduce the cost - but require more aggressions.
edit : yes a talos has 10 high turrets, a vindi 11 so I’m pretty sure a talos can do it too. just the webs won’t be as strong.

High Sec space puts limits on aggression, specifically time limits based on security status, with CONCORD destroying the ships initiating aggression.

The server has no way of determining if a bump is an accidental collision or an intentional and aggressive act. This creates a loophole that is being exploited.

We have been over this. Feel free to provide an argument about how tackle isn’t aggression, but stop acting stupid.