Bittervet looking to be convinced to come back (No Blocs)

Im a long time player of Eve looking for a reason to come back to the game. I quit the game maybe half a year or so ago due to the collapse of the corp/alliance I helped to build. I’m hesitant to come back to the game, but i keep up on updates and such which make me miss it, culminating in this post hoping someone will convince me to come back to join them. Ill start with what I would be looking for in a group, and then talk about what I could bring to the table. I know most recruiters don’t read this, but Ill preface this by saying that I have ZERO interest in joining a nullbloc, a large alliance, nomads, or an all mining group. Also, I know this is a bit of a text wall, but if you aren’t going to to read my post and deliver a real response then I wont give your post any consideration. Copy and paste messages or links to your website with a big flashing banner will not work.

I’ve had one goal since I started playing Eve in 2011, to TAKE space. Not to join an alliance with space, or rent space, or be given space by friends. I want to be a part of a group that has no territory, then goes on to actually fight for control of a system, and hold it through its own merits. Ive made this happen once or twice as a Director, but things usually fall apart shortly after with the CEO deciding to join a nullbloc or not being able to manage nullsec logistics and destroying his own group. What I usually look for is a smaller group with a similar mindset, and I’ve become good at helping smaller groups grow into something better, I thrive as a director or officer, but have no real interest in being the actual leader. I’m a Lieutenant, not a General, The strong right hand rather than the Head, but if the group is right Ill work my ass off to help them prosper, and will manage whatever responsibility is needed to make that happen. I value self sufficiency, and prefer Corps who have the same mindset, willing to buckle down and work for their things when necessary. Milestones are important to me, as well as to the growth of new groups, be it hitting a certain PvP fleet size, Mining a set amount of Ore, or building our first capital ship.

TLDR: I want to make something. Not join the finished product. Show me a competent CEO with drive and charisma and Ill help you build a corp that can achieve any goal you set for it.

About me,
To start, as I mentioned I want to come back, I havent logged back in as of yet, and would likely start off as alpha, at least until Im reasonably certain I will stay in the game for a while.

-I am EST US TZ and over 21, and would expect my CEO to be over 21 as well. No offense kiddos.
-I have an unhealthy obsession with Shield and Missile ships, though I can fly anything. Just know that if you set up a kitchen sink fleet you can expect me to show up in something silver unless otherwise specified.
-I have about 58 Million SP. I can fly a lot of ships, up to and including capitals, though I have not actually flown one before since i tend to fly with newer corps in an effort to get them to the point where capitals are relevant.
-I have lived in all areas of space, and have good knowledge of life in all of them.
-I can do a bit of everything, I fight, I build, I mine. I have the patience and knowledge to train newer players, and am not afraid of newbros with good attitudes being in my fleet. I’m a good administrator and don’t mind doing the boring stuff that keeps a corp running. Ive run Industrial teams, Buyback and SRP Programs, Diplomatic talks, been multiple corps communications officer and am a competent recruiter. I have also FCd small to medium fleets, though I prefer objective based fleets over roams.
-Generally I am not a Pirate,as that playstyle doesnt fit my goals well. Also I’m pretty nice.

If you made it all the way to the end, thanks for the time. I wish you the best of luck in convincing me to come back to the game, and am about 50% sure that I’m rooting for you. I look forward to flying with you.



Good luck friend.

Enjoy living in WH space, it is the only place you can “take space” as a new group these days without getting 20 edge lords in titans dropping on your face. :+1:


I really want to talk to you man.

I and my twin returned to the game and started Troll Legion desiring to make a scrappy tough pvp corp in null sec that take it’s own space.

We’re a small corp right now but firm believers in small highly trained and capable pvp pilots beating the blobs. When we looked for a sov group to join we wanted one that is aiming to take space and got lucky.

Our alliance is young, growing and attempting to prove itself (Took on a larger Goon fleet attempting to remove our sov and killed em)

Our goal is to build our little empire in Pure Blind and become a force to be reckoned with. We are first and foremost a pvp alliance. We NEED a better market, and that mean experienced players like you helping to new ones with ADMs, building, and organized production.

I personally am VERY interested in talking to you because as a CEO I’m a motivator, I get people to jump in fleets and do stuff, however, I am looking for bitter vets to be officers to help us decide best course of action. However, I am very picky about officers as attitude matters so no promises until I’ve gotten to know you.

I am over 30, self-employed and even though I don’t like missiles…well they ain’t bad now!

Been playing the game since 2007 (on my combat main) mostly in low sec pvp, built a wormhole alliance that turned ME into a bitter vet requiring a 2-year break. We have about 10 real-life players in corp now, and actively recruiting more.

You can find me in Trolling Grounds public channel or convo Ian Harms if you are interested in talking.


I’m not logged into Eve at the I can’t join your channel, but I can respond to evemails so feel free to message me there if interested

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Whatever is most convenient for you man! I like that you want to be part of a group that takes space. Our alliance has very FEW blues and no one in Pure Blind.

I think a lot of people go for the renter/giant blue doughnut out of fear and lack of experience. Taking space is risky…but THAT is the game. Building your own empire is risky…but if someone GIVES it to you, where’s the challenge?

I’m new to Sov warfare/politcs so we’re very lucky to have an Alliance Exec who knows what he’s doing, has similar views, isn’t into forcing people into the I Win Doctrine of the Month. (we do have doctrines but not the ridiculous skill requirements etc)

Big challenges is to recruit and train pilots in pvp and basic industry to survive in 0.0. Only the tough are going to make it! And that’s a good thing in our view.

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… 17 million SP? You don’t have the support skills nor experience (check your killboard) to fly much at all, dude. Seems like a lot of entitlement here; with nothing to back it up.

Pretty much the only groups that are going to TAKE space are high SP veterans, e.g Triumvirate, otherwise they’re going to end up making lots of deals and being pets of a large nullbloc.

Go find a budding highsec group and contribute to them, luckily with all the changes highsec is experiencing a nice revival. Maybe that’ll lead to new blood in nullsec, but you won’t be breaking in without raw talent (which isn’t really enough anymore, and won’t come from highsec) or being pets (renting, diplomacy, etc). Your other best bet is wormholes, where you can build a home away from the blob.


Thanks for pointing that out, I actually have 58 million sp. 17bil was something else. Woops. Been gone too long, UI moved around a bit.

What I’m really looking for is a smaller group with the drive to control their own space without relying on others. If you think that’s Impossible then you’re not someone I’ll likely be flying with. Also, you should really never tell someone to go to a hisec Corp unless you’re trying to get them to quit the game… That’s bad juju

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I read your post. Just so you know. I’m also going to tell you that my corp is not what your looking for. I’m going to throw it up here anyways, because people change their minds. |'m putting the spam at the bottom since we both know you prolly won’t read it. We are part of Fraternity, just started a war with Legacy Co. (Test, Brave, and friends have declared war against us) We have a corp full of people all over 20. We have a few FC’s bitter vets, experienced WH people, industry people. The corp pretty much has something for everyone. Back to the part where you should join us, at the coalition level we have one of the best FC’s in the game Elo Knight to fly for. I can guarantee you will not be fighting for the blob most of the time it is equal or we are the smaller group. What you will find here is a large group of people online in just our corp. Logistics by our corp if you need it and a bunch of new friends.

======Join Us======
Phocas Legacy
What we offer
==>Null sec PVP, PVE, Industry
==>Must be at least 18 years old
==>15 Mil SP minimum
==>Multiple tonns
==>Must be active, on coms, and want to pvp
==>What we offer SRP, Corp buy back on ore
and salvage, experienced Fc’s, premium systems

Join PH.L Pub ingame For recruitment

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Thanks for the honesty, I’ll keep you in mind if I switch lanes. Though I’m still mad at Elo Knight for his shenanigans during the fountain war. I stayed up many a night cheering on Black Legion against goons.

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Cheers, good luck in your search

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Greeting Pilot o7

I am also a returning player, but from a lot longer than you. Going back maybe 10years for me!

But I know your plight, I have come back and have now ended up helping run a new corp. Like yourself, I always find myself in newer corps helping them get to the level I want to be at.

Our corp isn’t interest in the command & conquer which you seem to seek, so our Corp probably isn’t for you as we are high sec, industrial and mining Corp. But as a fellow Pilot, I could do with someone relatable to my plight!

So if you don’t find what you are looking for, but want to come back to Eve for the crack and know you’re just gonna end up in a corp helping them again as a part of the whole rinse and repeat path that seems to happen to folk like us, then bare me in mind, please! :stuck_out_tongue:

Good luck finding you’re home know and if it falls through know you have our Corp to fall back on. Just like that drug den dealers always find themselves going back to when they try a ‘clean break’ and end failing and going back to what they know haha :smiley:

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Hi Zee. My name is spicey,

i think i have exactly what your looking for. so feel free to add me on discord for a chat!

we are a small gang alliance focused on taking our own pocket set apart from all the major blocs and we are not aligned with anyone, we have NIPS for structures but we still shoot anyone and everyone!

no blues, all hostiles, lots of fun lots of content. feel free to ping me on discord under the screen name marleath orteska.

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I can’t stand this thing about people just posting links trying to flash off how great they look on kill boards and how large the corporation is and they are so great I totally agree.

Let me first start out saying, we are a HS corp neighboring a LS system and close to null so we can go out quickly to cause some ■■■■ with our neighbors. To make things friendly to new players and not have a fear of getting torched when flying around by war targets we own no stations as an alliance so we can not be war dec’d. I have been working hard at building this corporation for the last several months. I feel that it is growing well.

I do agree with you that renting and being friends with people to live in a certain space is complete BS. I want to be able to take over space and defend it from anybody that comes in. That is what I am trying to build here. The alliance is great that we are part of, and we are totally wanting to take over new Eden. We are mainly US TZ with some EU presence. and work hard to increase that presence. We have docterines, and any kitchen sink is bling at own risk. we do alot of PvP in frigates to have some fun in FW space and tormenting the players sitting there. I would love to talk more with you about what we can do for each other. So please contact me,

Tari’elle Sheridan.

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Still looking

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Hey dude. RDC could be for you. PVP/Industry - no blobs or blocs. NPC nullsec.

Come hit us up in game at Red Steel channel.

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Hey Zee,

Right now, you sound like exactly what I’m looking for. I have a few strong leaders already, but having another that is able to help the corp prosper and possibly even FC is something I desperately need at this time for growth. I definitely share your sentiment in terms of wanting to take space, though. I’ve held space in a smaller null alliance before, so understand the difficulties that come with it and plan to cut my members teeth before attempting something without adequate preparation.

If you’d like to get in touch, I’ll probably send you a followup mail in game tomorrow. I’d love to talk things out one on one, and see if you’d enjoy flying with us.


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That was a huge wall of text, Honestly I wont spend a lot of time trying to convince you to come back, you should come back with a mindset for fun.

That being said I have been playing off and on since 2004 and I can tell you that Reload This. Has been the most enjoyable experience I have had in this game. Were currently rebuilding our roster and I think you should give us a shot.

Good luck wherever you land, P.S. were heavy US EST.


Come check us out! Were always growing and improving!