Merln … I am not sure what it is your trying to say.
WHAT THE F*CK?
Raising taxes was already a bad fix to symptoms CCP introduced themselves. And now f*cking up the trade skills?
What’s wrong with you people?
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Yep, exactly this.
Currently Margin Trading allows you to post only 24% of the order’s value I think? So for any active traders in Jita, Amarr, etc, they will now have to post roughly 4x as much money to keep a buy order open. Translation? A lot fewer open buy orders.
The principle of the skill is (was) that I wanted to buy several hundred, say, LAR IIs, but I knew those several hundred would only be sold to me over an extended period of time. It allowed me to also place buy orders for other items, several hundred Armor Explosive Hardeners or whatever, knowing that sell orders I had outstanding would be make ISK available to cover later purchases (very roughly, you can think of that as the portion Margin Trading “covered”).
With this change we’ve destroyed the ability to manage when money would be coming in and going out. It’s going to be a unilateral reduction in market activity - should be interesting to see how many dedicated traders there actually are in Jita, as we see people both massively downsize their trading, and some people stop with it altogether.
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What is unclear? The 0.01 ISK price change mechanic was stupid regardless of whether it was a bot or a human doing it. Now market success is about being smarter than your rivals, not just more dedicated to adjusting by 0.01 ISK 23/7.
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I’m ok with these changes if you also make it so that a bot player that runs more than 8 anomalies in a region can’t earn any more isk from them until they change region and run 8 there. just like how until we get new items we can’t make more profits. This will only hurt the botters, because the extreme majority of eve players likely only run 0 or 1 anomalies per day.
Please be self-consistent with your own logic, whichever way you choose to handle things.
Since you quoted me and your message otherwise seemed negative I assumed you were speaking against the idea. but that didn’t make sense given what you were saying didn’t reference it, so i was confused.
ahhh are you playing the same EVE spaceship game most others play or just going on wild supposition here?
Most people in high sec are running missions, or doing incursions, or trading in stations or mining, they represent a numerical majority of players, and since anomalies are not that valuable in high sec, we can be sure that they’re not doing all that many, on average, which is the method CCP is using to justify hurting trading in the name of “stopping the bots”. If my suggestion sounds absurd to you, good, because it is; just like these changes.
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If CCP can’t tell the difference what makes you think you can?
its a valid assumption.
{citation needed}
lol.
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The interface technically gives you the information. CCP just chose to hide the information. If you export the market orders for an item, it tells you how high the original order volume was. From that information, you can clearly deduce margin trade scams.
Is it? What is a smart way to win now? Do I have to wait until the last person ever put an order up on the market for an item? Or should I put up one item from my stack and then wait for someone else to undercut me and then add another item from my stack?
the information that is hidden, is whether or not the BO will complete.
If you know how to use the information from the export, you know that the order will not complete if the item’s current order volume is lower than the original volume. Alternatively, you can also use that information to find margin trade scams that the scammer have setup poorly and make them pay you before they can manipulate. 
Having said that, as said above, I am fully in favor of getting rid of that scam. The spam in local is really annoying. Sadly, it was already replaced with Hypernet.
Tell CCP to release the data, and it’s pretty fair to say "High sec anomalies don’t produce value comparable to super ratting’ there’s nothing laughable there.
so, no data that backs up your claim ?
That’s not how it works.
It only can’t complete IFF the buyers does not have the fund to pay it.
Which you can’t know.
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Yes, you can. 
ok boomer.
Confused about the Buy Order scam. Are you guys talking about where someone sells an item at Super high price, and sets buy order at an even higher price which will fail? to entice u to buy the first one?
To find that scam you just check the sell history. u see it has never sold/bought anywhere near the inflated price … done.
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Exactly that.