Burst Jammers (ECM Burst)

just want to protest against the last change that was made with Burst Jammers (ECM Burst) that Can now only be fitted to Battleship Hulls, Hauler Hulls and Command Ships.
as someone who never does pvp and doesn’t want to, Burst Jammers (ECM Burst) are a main way for me to survive long explorations and now I can’t use it on all my exploration ships.
I hope enough will support my protest and hopefully ccp will change it back.

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It was a part of my freighter anti-gank partner along with webbing. Another reason not to undock it’s fat ass.

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Isn’t the explorer’s solution to survival nullified covops cloaking ability, high manouverability and the ability to clear most sites quickly, i.e. faster then a ganker can get into position?

In order to use a burst jammer successfully, you need to get yourself locked, tackled and within 12km of the attacker, i.e. you need to screw up hard for the module to even provide any use, and even then, it only works half the times, while it provides no protection at all to any ganker that can single-volley you, such as gatecamp / undockcamp tornadoes and site lurking lokis.

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Just use ECM drones…

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the ECM jummer saved me a few times while I was hacking a site (relic/data) and got locked.
and you are right, getting locked on a site while in an exploration frigate means I messed up and sometimes I do :slight_smile: but I also use t3 and a straits to explore and with their align time they can get locked easier, so having the jummer allows me to take more risk with them. now with out the jummer I don’t think I’ll take the same risks.

ECM drones are far less effective then a jummer.
I also use them together with the jummer,

It makes sense when you put it into the context of ships exploding is good for the game economy.

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no more ecm burst Bellicose robbing ESSs

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As explorer I never used ECM burst as it is mutually exclusive with a much more crucial tool for explorers, the nullifier.

Unless you only explore low sec space or are using T1 ships (which cannot be nullified) I don’t see why you would put an ECM burst on your explorer. In WH space, Pochven and NS a nullifier is more valuable and in HS the ECM burst gets you CONCORDOKKEN.

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I live in null and I never used a nulli, easy to escape bubbles without it.
In my astero, Meta, Stratios and t3 exploration ships I use, I always prefer the ecm jummer.

It’s wasting a valuable mid slot for a coin flip to see if you can get away. In my exploration ships I’ve always had many better mid slot options between scan upgrades or even just both a cheap T2 data and relic analyzer instead of paying 300 million extra for one that combines both.

Interesting to see you consider a nullifier optional and an ECM burst crucial. I’d value them the other way around in null sec. Yes, it’s doable to escape bad bubble camps with just a covops cloak, but I feel a lot more comfortable with a nullifier that saves me even if I encounter a big fleet on gate.

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I’d say that in WH space a nullifier is less useful and then a burst might be the better choice, but as you said it takes up a mid slot and it’s relying on RNG in order to escape.

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Look at the ship types they prefer, they are all SOE. Nullifier isn’t an option. Some people perfer an astero wit 5 drones since it means you can beat pretty much any t1 or t2 scanning frigate in a fight for a trade off in high end scan probe power.

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return burst jammer to all ships!
What should I do now if I don’t want to fight?

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If you don’t want to fight, don’t undock. Or to avoid fights, pay attention to local and dscan. Treat your ship as ammo in low/null.

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There must always be a choice or a chance. I can just not play and the problem is over(((
You recomendation not work on simple Gate Camp…

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The chance to survive a bubble camp without nullifier is to pulse the prop mod, covops cloak and manouver the explorer, outwitting the campers’ attempts to bump-decloak, just as it was being done before the introduction of the nullifier module.

The choice is whether to manouver out of the bubble or to manouver back to the gate. Just as in the old days, too.

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that’s what’s so great about this game, so many ways to do the same activity XD

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They’re gone, almost certainly not coming back.

I think they should bring ecm back to its glory days. Revert it to how it was when you could field a fleet of falcons and perma jam someone out of a fight. Make ECM Great Again

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