Can EVE Online be played cooperatively as a community - rather than just as individuals?

A lot of people talk about their favorite moment in EVE, blowing something up, getting killed, and exciting battle, etc. Mine is different.

I was just a couple months into the game and having a really bad day- had just lost a ship my CEO had given me because I had done something stupid, had some personal things going on, and Leonard Cohen had just died. I was sitting in a belt feeling depressed trying to get some materials back to replace the ship I had lost and some random guy showed up, said hello, and offered me the first mining boost I had ever received. He was friendly and we talked for a while and became friends. It totally turned my day around.

I decided that I wanted to pay that forward to other people. That’s how I play the game, and thats how I build my community up. I give away ships and modules, try to help with fitting advice, and do what I can to help people figure out the game and decide what they want to do here.

Folks can call me a carebear all they like, but helping rookies makes me happy and helps them make the game better for everybody.

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Thank you Solonius_Rex your comments are really helpful. I definitely have misconceptions. Thank you for clarifying.

Perhaps I worry too much. I could not tell from the Agency description of destroying other guests at the Gala if that meant PVP or PVE, so played it safe and stayed away. My concern does sound daft when you explain it.

I have seen popup messages which say ā€˜so and so you are an enemy of the state, leave now or you will be destroyed’. I don’t want that to be me, it is very difficult to buy an afterburner in Jita if I am destroyed every time I go there. That is all I meant.

Thank you for explaining the way to access Incursions. I have tried several times and never found the special incursion chat box. I will have another look for it. That was what I was missing, it would make sense that a system exists to play together.

Good tip about the corp membership thing thank you.

I don’t have a problem with the idea of PVP, but having witnessed some terrible bullying on local with certain groups demanding isk for things like licenses - and allegedly then killing the person anyway.

I am really glad for the support and help you have given me as a community today on this chat forum. o7

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Hi Ivory_Harcourt

Thank you for your comments. I think you can see that no I did not know what is going on with these events.

I did not know people actually were able to join in, I wondered if maybe they were already in a 30man FC fleet with 5-6 online. Is there a way that I can join TVP for an incursion please?

Thank you.

Look up ā€œthe Valhalla project eve online incursionsā€ and you will get their website. Or just eve online incursions and you might get a variety of groups (there are several, all doing things differently).

Really, it sounds like you should have interacted with people in rookie help or in your corp chat way earlier, instead of building a picture of eve that has little to do with it. I strongly encourage you to check more often from now on.

Please note that this is New Citizens Q&A, not General Discussion. There is no need to be intemperate. New players often get very confused by EvE, especially since it does not fit any of the experiences they may have had with other MMORPGs.

I remember when I started how I nearly went insane trying to understand the Scanning/Exploration tutorial. Nothing seemed to work, nor was it remotely intuitive. If it hadn’t been for some understanding players, I would probably have given up the game there and then.

I’m reminded of the Rumsfeld quote: ā€œThere are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don’t know we don’t know.ā€

In the context of EvE, even the ā€œknownsā€ are probably wrong when you are new!

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Very well said.

@Gronac_Cadelanne looks like you had a realy hard start into the game
asking the other guy for join up with TVP is exact the way this game works
you talk to someone here and haf a short chat there … this game is full of community … ok yea there are really stuppid idiots in eve too but most guys i ever met are really nice guys
actually i met a guy online and we talked each day … on one point it came out we life a few mins from each other … made a RL friend in eve … nice eh?

hey @Gronac_Cadelanne you are in a player corp or are this all alts of you?
the characters in you corp are all made between 2017/07 and 2017/12 … so maybe it would be good to come in ingame contact with guys who play since a few yars … there you can ask and get real answers … i can offer help … just contact me ingame when i am online … should not be a recruting thing … dont get me wrong …

this game is so complex and huge in stuff to do you need some guys in the beginning … and the rookie chat was my help so often … i sometimes hang in this channel when mining

ok … whatever you do i hope you get off the bad experience soon and you find a place where you can learn and do the cool and sometimes boring stuff … in die end its all part of eve

hav fun and fly safe

JuuR

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Thank you https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erethond, https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kumakatok, https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenne_Wain and https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JuuR_Zibaoo

I hope by dragging your names into the message I was able to get your names to come up instead of having to type them in. It doesn’t look right in the preview window so I am taking a risk here.

Yes my corp is me, my alts, and a couple of younger family members. We definitely lack the wider experience.

I will certainly look you up and check out the Rookie Help Channel. It is good to know it is still available. Another one of my misunderstandings - I thought I read that it is only available for the first month of being a player.

Thanks for your advice and good wishes o7

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For the record, any time you find yourself in Gallente space, feel free to drop me a message and I’d be happy to fleet up with you for some mining or missions and I’m always happy to help or chat via EVEmail or PMs in-game :slight_smile:

Okay, I think I understand a little more now.

The ā€œGuestsā€ they speak of are the Enemy NPCs. They do not mean other players. You are supposed to defeat the waves of NPCs, and then at the very end, a final Battlecruiser or Battlehsip will spawn, and that is the special one that you have to defeat in order to end the site.

You can still dock while being a criminal, which means that you can still buy and trade. While you are docked in hisec, you are always safe.

You have to go to the specific system that the incursion is active in. The incursion communities have created websites too. Here are two:

https://forums.warptome.net/

Well, most likely he was killed because he refused to buy the liscense, but thats not bullying for EVE. In EVE, its the wild west, and if you can enforce the rules, you are the rules.

We are given a lot of freedom in eve that we dont get in other MMOs. The great thing about EVE is that Players make the content, Players make the rules, Players create interactions. Your actions have consequences, and whatever you choose to do or not do guides your path down this game.

I absolutely love it. I love how I can totally ruin someones day but be best of friends the next. I love how every time i shoot other people, we all say GF win or lose and how everyone is in good spirits for having fought a fun and engaging fight. And of course, i love how people sometimes lose their $hit in local and goes off the walls bonkers, cause those are also always fun.

Eve is what you make it. That includes whether you choose to be a victim or a survivor. A prey or a predator. A tough nut or a fragile egg. Its a game, enjoy it to its fullest.

You have to type @ and then the name of the person you are trying to reach for then to get a notification. So to make sure you see this, I type @Gronac_Cadelanne.

Also, feel free to add me in game and send questions my way.

Sure. There you go:

That’s not really the same. Eventually you either learn how to do scanning (or whatever you wish) or you give up and do something else in EVE or elsewhere. I gave up EVE few times before it clicked for me as well, but I never ignored things like corporations, or google, and I knew about EVE politics far before I’ve started the game itself. Again, there are people who don’t care about it and just play solo, but such people usually don’t complain about the lack of community (yet alone in a game full of communities of different size).

Guilds/clans exist in other games. Regular PuG groups exist in other games. Barrens chat / local exists in other games.

Thing is, I’ve seen brutal amount of trolls coming to forums or to rookie chat specifically for the purpose of trolling. People who uttered something completely illogical but what could be attributed to their newbieness - and when someone corrected them, they created a drama or kept repeating the same thing. Example - curently there’s a guy in rookie chat trying to explain to everyone that bigger ships are the only way to go in PVP and frigates are useless, strangely enough he’s nowhere to be seen when ISD is online.

Admittedly, this guy seems to accept the advices we gave him, but I am still extremely curious about what series of events/thinking/previous experience led to the claims in the topic. At the very least it might help devs to be able to change the description on the events so that more people would understand that it’s a PVE event and that yes they can and should participate.

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Being WANTED has no real relevance to someone’s ability to function in Hisec or anywhere else really. To be honest i’d steer clear of any corp where the management don’t seem to have any grizzly scars from previous fights. Fear the clean cut guy with no killboard and perfect teeth.

You seem to have misunderstood the event. To me the Gala event was a very nice one and relatively well done after some of the past ones, they finally got it right.

It was an awesome booster farm, eitehr for use for your own characters or profit. Not necessarily to PvP. though there was plenty of PvP over the lootboxes, especially during the first week, then it waned off just like every event.

The event seem fairly well balanced vs some of the otehr events which were either too easy, so vet players just 1 shot everything (or 2 shot), or too hard for example the sleeper drone event was too difficult for new players due to their low skills and the cap drains, scrams, dps reqs, etc. for the sleepers.

In HS, Gala event could be soloed by us vets, or done in groups of 2-3 new players, which I think was perfect difficulty wise.

In LS, the difficulty would on occasion spike up depending on boss spawns, and of course you have to fly a different fit due to PvP, usually less DPS and omni instead of rat specific tank, along with more utility or some sort of a plan (fit) that lets you get away when PvP comes about. I haven’t done any of them in NS this round due to time constraints, but I imagine it would be much like the ones in LS, with even more frequent higher end boss spawns.

Just because you are not in a corp / alliance, doesn’t mean they can’t blue you and you can’t fly with them and / or talk to them on their TS / discord. I do this with my ex mates on relatively frequent basis as these days I just prefer to kinda lazily hang out rather then get into all the alliance crap and my main PvE toon is in an NPC corp at the moment for a plethora of reasons.

If you are looking for a ā€œpureā€ dungeon style co-op play, I don’t think that exists here. But in HS and NS (but surprisingly not in LS) there are plenty of places where you can achieve almost that. So you can play a carebear style game in NS.

The ā€œisolationā€ that you speak off after the tutorial depends entirely on you. Do you wait until you complete some more ship training before joining a corp ? It is wise to do so. At the same time you will have a better grasp on the game and which corp to join when the time comes.

If I were you I would not be too concerned about leaders sec status, but check their and the members of that corp killboard for corp / allaince kills, and make sure they have a group of people playing at the time when you play the most, as well that they are the right fit. if its a PvP only corp and you join it and wanna do some events / ratting, you will be alone, and vice versa for example. If you are general combat oriented, then avoid joining mining indy corps or again, vice versa.

So joining the right corp is what makes that go away. Also, if you do join and the corp turns out not to be what you thought, then just leave. Leave on as good terms as possible, don’t throw a hissy or tantrum over it, just be polite and say farewell. But don’t be afraid to leave it and then go to another.

Thank you @Keno_Skir and @Fluffy_Moe, I think that is really good advice.

I wanted to keep my options open, and thought that faction warfare might lower my standing with some of the other factions - before I knew if that mattered or not. Then got confused and thought incursions were the same, and didn’t know how to join in anyway. Then the events came along and my newbieness left me totally lost.

I have never played any MMO games before so the learning curve is really steep.

I am still a bit confused by terms like ā€˜blue’, ā€˜TS’ and ā€˜discord’. I have read the links others have posted and realised I probably need to invest in a headset / mic so I can voice chat rather than typing.

Everyone has been a great encouragement. I am glad I asked the question as it has opened up a whole new perspective for me. o7

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You picked a really interesting one.

Get in touch if you get stumped and need help o/

When you (Or your corp or tour alliance) sets positive standings to someone (Or their corp or alliance), they get a blue icon on your overview. So instead of saying ā€œpeople with positive standingsā€, we say ā€œbluesā€.

TS stands for teamspeak. Both it and discord are out of game communication program. They allow you to speak to others and also to chat and receive notifications without being logged in the game.

My personal advice is that you stay in High Sec for a month or 2 and just let your skills train. 1st get your cybernetics to at least 4 so you can use implants as they speed up rest of your training time very considerably. Decide what kind of pilot you want to be and then remap your stats. Go all the way on 2 at least for max training type. If combat, you will want perception, willpower, memory, don’t waste stat points on other stuff.

At the same time do some missions to get your standings up some more, especially for the NPC corps in charge of Jita + 1 other market of your choosing. Once you hit a 5.0 standing with an NPC corp, you can make jump clones at their stations, this is very important. Having a HS jump clone near a major market before you go venturing into LS , or NS or WHs and join corps there is really handy.

Make a 2nd character, keep it alpha, neutral in NPC corp, park it near Jita. Do it on a seperate account. this will also help you. Let it train while you play your 1st one.

Voice comms are essential for any decent level group gameplay, headset is handy.

jumpcones can be very important but you dont need -5 standings with the npc corp … just make a jumpclone …

i would not remap in the beginning … go to cybernetics lvl4 and use standard implants … if you have a raw plan what you want to do … do it … dont wait … make a skillplan and go into that BUT never forget the core skills
in ENGINEERING you find so handy stuff like weapon ipgrades & advanced weapon upgrades, capassitor management, cpu upgrades, energiy grig upgrades and so on … you need this skills on any ship
i have this skills all on level 5 … yea ok it takes a bit but you can fit your ship better
it takes time to skill that but in the time you need to skill find a small corp … friendly guys … learn how to stay safe in HS and do you first steps into LS, Null and WH

fly safe and enjoy your eve

JuuR