did i word that badly? why would anyone rather buy a plex with cash for subbing, instead of subbing with cash directly?
the desired outcome seems to be to get people away from subbing with ingame plex, as the price just keep going up and general income will not rise equally. CCP will introduce more and more stuff for the NES, and the amount of people subbing with PLEX will continuously go down.
damn, you editted your small post to a big one.
well, thatās not the case apparently, and there is zero indication that itās what they want, else they hadnāt caused nuPlex and would stop adding more and more stuff to the NES, plus having all teams be āmindful of monetizationā. So while you might be right theoretically, somehow, apparently things have changed considerably.
We have nothing other than guesses when it comes to their motives or intentions behind the changes. Increased plex prices are a consequence of the changes yes, but itās a considerable stretch to say that the increase was the end goal and not simply an unavoidable consequence that they deemed acceptable for the greater flexibility and ease of use that the new one offers. (Anyone who delt with the old arum market with any regularity will tell you that it was clunky and awkward as ā ā ā ā )
Yes the changes have increased the price of plex. But their tools for reducing the price in a player controlled market without cutting features or returning to the old system (or something similar) are quite limited.
Itās a certain logic.
When you think about changing something, you accept the consequences and build around them. There is no way they want to lower the price of plex beyond lip service and sales to shut people up every now and then, otherwise their roadmap made no sense at all, because itād run counter to reality. I donāt need to know their intentions to know that they know what theyāre doing here and how the outcome will be.
For the opportunistic mind, itās a considerable stretch to assume that the outcome wasnāt embraced beforehand. Itās a stretch to assume that they didnāt plan with exactly this in mind, willingly going for it. it makes no sense to me to assume they want a low plex price. Itās much better the other way round.
people who refuse to pay and donāt want to play as alpha are apparently undesired. Alpha gives the option to play for free, which is great and allows to play the game and stay in contact with others. There simply is no reason, or requirement anymore, for the price of plex to be low.
you do understand that ccp makes MORE money from people who plex their account right? What purpose would it serve to price those players out? (Which you seem to think is their intention)
Technically, they make no money from them.
Only from whomever bought the PLEX.
The money comes from whoever buys the plex, not from whoever consumes it. itās an accounting thing, that considers the plex as real income once itās consumed, but the money still is in CCPās wallet already. anyone saying tnat CCP makes more money from those who consume plex, are miswing the point, because theyāve earned the money already when it has been bought. itās inaccurate to claim that CCP makes money from those who consume plex from isk.
now we are in a situation we never had before. now, there are tons of things one can use to sink plex. the playerās subscription as driving factor has been put lower on the ladder. they even pretty much removed a way of sinking plex that they always benefitted from: destruction. the plex vault makes it super easy to always have your plex with you, without risking them. in the past, when people destroyed thousands worth of plex, it was good news for CCP. the situation changed.
no matter how much you stick on old ways of looking at things, they apparently want less people to sub via isk. vOv
Yellow parasol, you once again need to have the plex system broken down and explained to you in simple terms, because you very clearly still donāt understand it.
Really? Again??
Think about it. Why would CCP want people to plex their subs? They donāt. There are enough other plex sinks already. CCP does not benefit from players influencing the plex market via sinking them into subscriptions.
those who can afford subbing with plex will still do so, but there is already a new generation out there, that has to live with the fact that theyāll have it harder than former generations. And itās only going to get āworseā!
These people sub with cash, or play Alpha and occasionally buy SKINS, too. The people who buy plex for stuff to buy from the NES are a seperate thing. The less subscribers using plex for subbing, the better.
Points:
Itāll never again get to a level, where a majority of people consider it relatively easy to achieve. CCP has reached a point, where they can actively influence the plex market by lootdrops and shiny items people will buy.
vOv
I donāt think so, no. Iād have worded it differently @yellow_parasol, but youāre essentially correct in your assessment.
Thank you. 
(see edit)
You still have not explained in any way why they would not want people plexing their accounts instead of subbing? They make more money per month from a plexed account than from a subbed one.
And ccp has not actually ADDED any plex sinks. In fact they have removed them.
Aurum was a plex sink, and any items purchased with aurum fueled that plex sink. Even more than now in fact because with the old conversion system you damn near always had extra aurum left over (or ended up with random cosmetics or skins)
They removed character transfers, and with the plex vault they made it damn near impossible to loose plex via ship destruction.
No new ones have been added since ship skins, and those have been around for years now. All that has happened is that the old aurum services are easier for people to access with microplex. It has not created any new sinks.
Realistically. Who the hell is going to be buying plex with IG cash as an alpha for skins, instead of getting an omega sub? Iām sure they exist. But it would be a tiny number compared to the people who plex their accounts monthly.
Yes prices have gone up. That is undeniable. And that increase has been driven in part by easier accessibility to aurum features. But itās a massive stretch to assume that increased prices are their intention rather than just an unavoidable side effect. That they have, from all appearances, tried to mitigate through removal of 2 large plex sinks.
Why am I thinking of the people talking about real estate and housing prices prior to 2006? 
Agreed.
Iād add āsomeā in there, but agreed.
Agree again.
Agreed.
Wellā¦for me the price hasnāt changed in years since I sub via cash.
Lol! You win the Naivete Award of the day
If you think CCP isnāt meddling in the market on a daily basis then I have a contract to sell you, itās for 1 Carā¦er 1 Charon. Only 900 Million ISK!
Well, when the blind lead the blindā¦ Iāll leave you to it.
So please, enlighten me. How does CCP meddle in the market on a daily basis?
I donāt know if they meddle, but the supply of PLEX is completely under the control of CCP. I have argued that the supply of PLEX is pretty much prefectly elastic (think of a horizontal line at the price of a PLEX). If CCP changes the price they change the supply curve. Increase the price and the curve shifts upwards and given the downward sloping nature of the supply curve this would reduce the amount of PLEX available on the market in-game. Similarly if the price is decreased, then the supply curve shifts down and the amount of PLEX in game will increase.
So a sale will lead to more PLEX in game form the supply side (the OOG demand becomes the IG supply [to a large extent]). This in turn leads to a drop in the IG price as well. If you look at each sale by CCP youāll see a drop in the price during the sale period.
Heās still right. You being unable to comprehend it isnāt a fault of ours.
This is wrong, again.
CCP makes no money from a plexed account.
Only from a plex purchase.
hm not exactly
his points arent exactly accurate and are largely based on assumption
its true but its also a somewhat pedantic argument
i mean its obviously going to devolve into an argument about if no one plexes they will lose plex sales etc etc
no one really wants to go down that path its tedious for all involved