then how during the week up to my monthly plex i was watching prices go varying from 3.5 to 3.7 not counting all the listings further down above 4m
You lost market PvP? Either that, you are a master at picking bad timing.
You canât really argue with Eve market history unless, of course, you claim that CCP is manipulating the market data.
but youre going by market graphs which is median value. sell values =/= median =/= buy values.
it doesnt represent what its actually being bought at. like i said if youd been watching the sell values daily youd see its up above 3.5m and has been growing steady for months since the plex changes towards 4b. you cant get it for any less. no one sells plex at buy value or median. youll sit at jita all day waiting and have nothing to show for it.
Plex is currently being sold at 3.2m (actually less, slightly). Thatâs the hard truth and its price has been slightly going down.
Additionally, You even said on one instance that itâs already doubled which CCP disputed that.
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it has when you go from 2m to 4m its double
Very well.
If you say 2m to 3.2m is double, so be it.
Believe what you will. I have nothing more to say.
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Because dag nabit I used to be able to plex my 72 accounts with 5 minutes of mining, now it takes 6 minutes!!!
This is an outrage, something must be done!
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I donât agree. PLEX prices and SP farming are linked in a fairly simple manner. If PLEX prices go up, then skill injector prices will go up as will skill extractors. These two markets without some sort of âshockâ from outside that market would eventually stabilize. When did we have SP farming? Feb. 2016? There was a period of PLEX Price stability through Sept. 2016 - Mar. 2017. How do you explain that?
No, sorry, you are just making claims with out even a fig leaf of evidence or logic.
Yeah, well the current trend is downwards. You might want to consider something radical here before you postâŚlike logging in and looking at prices in Perimeter.
No, the price increase has been fairly linear, not exponential. Lets agree that your 300 million price in 2009 is accurate, and that the price is now 1.8 billion. The change in that time frame is 1.5 billion. A linear trend where the price increases, on average, of 15,000,000 ISK/month would fit that data.
You were wrong about PLEX prices doubling, you were wrong about it heading to 4 million right now, and you are wrong on the exponential claim.
Good thing this is baseball, youâd be on your way back to dugout.
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Correct, I have been logged in most of the day while working from home, Kosoku is correct, Matthias Ancaladron is wrong.
Matthias Ancaladron,
Dude, you are not helping your credibility here by refusing to log in and look at the facts. You are simply wrong.
I am looking at sell orders in Perimeter right this very minute. Lowest sell order is 3.21 million ISK.
And the median price is a pretty good indicator of where the market clearing price is. Yes, some buy from sell orders and pay 3.21 million. Others buy via buy orders and pay 3.19 million. The median price for today will almost surely be between those two values when we check tomorrow.
PleaseâŚengaging in histrionics is not going to help your case.
no it doesnt
i cant be bothered to explain the reasons why that would just be stating the obvious
the fact is
you do interfere all the time
Translation: I am butthurt so Iâll just say stuff without any basis or logic.
Oh, and you forgot your mean face. 
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teckos i am not butthurt
i dont care about plex prices
im just pointing out the hypocrisy of his statement
whereas you just look like a brat
desperate to eat falcons butt
Maybe you could try posting without being so much petulance and whining.
Is the market a free market? Yes.
Does CCP interfere with it all the time? No. Do they make changes form time-to-time? Yes. Of course. As we look back over history we see CCP has introduced new ship classes, that âinterferesâ with the economy. They introduced T2 modules, that interferes with the economy. They realized that last one was badly done, so they âinterferedâ again to try and fix it.
So yes, in a literal sense you are correct, CCP interferes, but you are correct in all the ways that simply do not matter.
if youre gonna be rude then im gonna be petulent
great job contradicting yourself
confirming the hypocrisy of falcons post
and highlightlighting the general uselessness of your posts
next time just shut up instead of picking fights for attention
You were petulant and rude before my response.
There is no contradiction. If we want to define interference as anything that impacts the market, then yes, we can count on CCP interfering every Christmas. But does it matter? No. Not really, because the market is still a free market where supply and demand determines prices and quantities. CCP is not setting prices. They are not setting production quotas. The in game economy has virtually no traces of national/central planning even partially.
you mean to falcon
nope i was just making a point nothing i said was rude or petulent
if you read that as petulent and rude then youre just being overly defensive of falcon
and seeing something that isnt there
your whole post was a huge contradiction
and who determines supply
who decides mineral costs
who decides drop rates
really
so theres no limit on manufacturing jobs
they dont dictate mineral requirements
and change those requirements as they see fit
and you think those changes dont matter
like people dont benefit from stockpiling ships right before the mineral cost is increased
and they are keeping an eye on things
like saar changes
youre telling me that isnt interference
now you see the contradiction of this part when you even state minerals and drops are rebalanced for the health of the market and to create a desireable economy
even if its for the right reasons
its still directly controlled and managed to create an economy that suits the game
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No. They are not dictating nothing other than what inputs are needed to make something and even there it is not something they change frequently. Making anything requires inputs. CCP sets those and then generally leaves them for extended periods. This is not an example of planning anymore than booting up the server is either.
Here is what would happen if CCP started changing these things frequently. People would notice that and then behave strategically in response and to a large extent frustrate CCPs attempts to control the economy. In fact, this kind of uncertainty is generally bad for economies, and it actually has a name, regime uncertainty. CCP is aware enough that pervasive and constant tinkering with the economy will destabilize itâŚnot stabilize it. So they tend to leave it alone. This way people can make short and long term plans in game.
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but they do change it and the way the economy works is controlled by those changes
if ccp never changed these things the economy would be a much bigger mess than it is
youre changing the subject
i dont care about your behavioural psychology tangent
this is just damage control
i already schooled you on this matter
theres nothing else i need to say
the answer to everything, blow more stuff up. 
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Plex for real world cash buyers decide how much theyâre willing to part with them for plex for isk buyers decide how much theyâre willing to pay, so âthe marketâ, itâs called supply & demand.
Players who buy & sell minerals, so âthe marketâ⌠again, supply & demand⌠again.
CCP⌠if youâre trying to say what I think you are this one is really youâre only partially valid point out of those three 