fixed it for y… eh… the individual representing those who want the game to be better. On a totally unrelated topic, I watch sovereign citizen videos on youtube a lot.
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did i put 11pm my bad…time was 3 h mate
Yo genius,if you want same income for null and high wh tier you’d have to do a c6 site in an hour.
Also learn the game before spewing crap all over
Yo genius, what’s the risk/reward, difficulty level, convenience factor, etc. of a c6 compared to sitting in the middle of Delve? Learn the game before spewing crap all over.
Same since c6 is hard knocks farmland
You dont seriously believe a c6 is as dangerous by PvP as a deep secured Player NS system?
@Salvos_Rhoska, the haters and trolls have been out in full force. Better have a big butthole if you’re gonna post in here.
My butthole is so iron tight, nothing can penetrate it.
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No-Lifers ASSEMBLE \o/
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Goons vomit as usual a lot of crap to rationalize their unfair advantages who they got by whining and crying river of tears to CCP. Do you remember how CCP changed the war dec mechanics at an instant, when poor goons cried help as they got mass war decs? Or when CCP invented an instant “wreck balance” just to to stop the river of tears from their high sec ganking alts losing their loot to anti-gankers? And you can find so many other examples in EVE history.
Anyway, you can just keep trying to rationalize, numbers don’t lie and that graph show what isk porn is running in Delve, made possible by isk printing machine you have at your disposal to run it 24/24 at the best profit/risk ratio in EVE universe:
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That was pretty appalling by CCP…
by isk printing machine
And by bots too! 
Well, i don’t want to jump with accusations (as others do, you know that usually the thief is crying thief), but i will resume to say that if anywhere in eve was something even close to what is going on in Delve, then we had goons crying and screaming hysterically about what bot fest is going on there…
GMs teleported botters ships to Yulai few times, then they were killed by multiple players. Truth is there were not only Goons bots there, but Goons won that competition with a titan teleported there.
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Let me explain something to you,
First of all, if you count all regions held by NCdot or other alliances then you will see comparable results.
Second of all, it’s perception and self-victimization.
Let me explain,
A long time ago, Zaire was occupied by Belgium. We put some farms, mines, schools, infrastructure down there that was not there before as people were not interested in min/maxing and just lived a life in tribes. They rose up and got their independence and are now called Congo. China, interested in grabbing the resources just like Belgium did a long time ago went to try the same, however, they did not colonize the country that was now tribes living over a formerly organised country. Now before y’all start to shout “racism”, this was exactly the same for western countries after the fall of the Roman Empire so keep your “truth blocker shouting” for yourselves. A Chinese concession holder of a mine asked a local manager why they couldn’t move their ores to the shore to ship it to china. He replied “We were once colonized.”. The Chinese man got slightly annoyed with that SJW answer. He said “Ok, you were colonized. It was a horrible period but you got all the railroads, farms, mines, infrastructure after the independence. Why didn’t you maintain it?”. And there is no need for an answer, because we all know not organising (well chosen strategy + tactics ) will lead to collapse and low yield. Happened to the Mayans, Egyptians, Europeans, Native Americans,… Happened to everyone at a given time if we look back thousands of years. Goonswarm isn’t helped by CCP. They are helped by organisation and good management, they make tough decisions and push people to make a better community. I am part of GSF, do you think my high sec corp does good? No, because I run it lazy and soft. My fault. I at least take my responsibility.
I understand and hope people posting here are doing this for propaganda and aren’t ignorant. Empires rise and fall on every continent just as in EVE Online. It is humans working together.
Nice story, but EVE was changed so much just in last 6-7 years that it not resemble anymore even the old EVE; the game balance and what derives from that are sole game design decisions made by developers.
That graph show just raw isk, printed from thin air via NPC bounties, and show nothing about another sources of revenues like minerals, moons, etc.
So you rationalize that obscene disparity between Delve and other null sec areas, and between null and other sec areas are just as the fruits of hard working people grinding the game to death?
Again a very nice story, but the truth is that a lot of people are grinding isk in other areas of space under similar or worse profit/risk ratio, but they are far far away from insane wealth you get there; all of that, i repeat, facilitated by sole game mechanics.
The things are so broken that now everyone and his dog from goons have super-capitals used to farm isk in safety, they can even afford to use dreads as throw away fleets used for suicide ops, and all game balance is broken.
Why? Because when an entity is able produce that ludicrous amounts of wealth, all game universe is getting completely ■■■■■■ up.
I understand your point of view, how many with the same idea just hopped onto the Goon bandwagon? Join GSF and just sit there ratting under the defense umbrella of GSF while doing PVP with their second account. It’s the least risk, probably less than 30%. No where near 100% security as some covert recruitment agents are posting here. Beware the propaganda machine.
But feel free to do other things, I also do other things ingame but no, they aren’t as well organised and thus will yield me much less.
In stead of complaining, take a nullsec area yourself, get allies to defend you and grind the hell out of some forgotten nullsec area or even low sec although others can set up camp in any station as those are NPC.
The game is more than repeat pressing of F1, no matter what hardened PVP veterans say.
Yes.
NPC 0.0 requires CCP attention. It needs more NPC stations, it needs more links between systems and constellations. Most of those Pirate regions are a bunch of systems with pipeline connections between them. Omg, I remember the Venal gatecamps, some gates there were camped for many hours. Being in a corporation, its hard to coax your corp-mates to become your bodyguards, while you are grinding or farming something there in a BS or bigger ship. It’s much safer to live in Low-Sec or WH than in a pirate 0.0s.
For a small corp, your Citadel there will not live for long. Try to use Frigates and T3 Destroyers and sneaky Cruisers like Stratios and T3 Cruisers with MWD-cloak trick, which will help to escape in some scenarios. The main recipe to live and survive there is to use multiboxing for tanking, dps, jamming, intel, cyno-gen - 1/2 operational ships, 1 Griffin NI or Falcon and a Logistic Cruiser. It’s boring and annoying, but this is the truth. Sadly, the multiboxing is used not only in 0.0 but in any other parts of the game frequently nowadays. Compared to other MMORPGs, the EVE multiboxing grants a way to much power and abilities to a player.
The truth is next: “If in 0.0 SOV a second Omega account it’s a recommendation, then in 0.0 NPC space it’s a requirement.”
If you aren’t a member of local pirate corporation or alliance, which operates there, then you’ll take only risks and nothing in return. Due to my personal experience, I’ll suggest you to try to live like you did in Syndicate or Curse Regions only.
I think it’s you who are missing the point. The point is not about goons, or their organization. Think of it this way:
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Where are the greatest consistent rewards possible in EvE?
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Is this the same location that has the greatest risk?
If the answer to #2 isn’t ‘Yes’, then the risk/reward balance is broken. I would argue there is higher risk living in wormholes (no local, no asset safety), yet the greatest consistent rewards are not there. I have more experience there than other locations, others might feel differently - that’s what discussions are for.
CCP has offset the risk/reward balance to get people out into SOV null. It’s not one or two things that are better there, it’s almost everything is significantly better. They have been actively pushing this agenda for about 5 or so years, yet in the same time we’ve watched their active player base drop by about 50%. Whether through neglect, lack of development, or nerfs, the rest of EvE has lost a significant number of active players that haven’t been made up by gains in SOV null.
This doesn’t appear to be a successful business strategy for a company whose stated goal was “wanting players to play their game.” But only CCP can really say if they are happy with this trend in EvE. As a player, I am not happy that many of my friends are no longer playing, players who started in 2003 - 2005 and played for many, many years. I want to see this trend reversed, I want to see EvE growing again every year as it did for about 10 years straight. EvE is STILL a great game, with few (if any) direct competitors out there.
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Yet no one has a definite answer on why they left. I quit eve online two times, once for 1 year, once for two years. Both due to real life issues preventing me to sink time into EVE Online.
I know some friends that tried EVE Online, but most that left roll eyes and say they will never come back. The game is mostly slow and frustrating, other fast paced and reward intensive games are around. So each change is an extreme risk for EVE Online. Tell me, how will you get some of my friends back, i will cross check with them and come back to you with the answers.
This amazes me, the casino addicts leave the game yet 20 000 players get active AGAIN…
you would think that there would be a bunch of disgruntled casino ‘employees’ and their fanbase leaving yet the complete opposite happens. Unless there are some ‘robots’ added to the game to make it seem ok to the shareholders? Could be other RMT people trying their shot on making some bucks on the game? I dunno. This is the most mysterious game ever regarding to player count.