It’s a good thing CCP - via their GMs - allow spambotting now. Else this guy would be in a lot of trouble:
Mr Epeen 
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That’s in different corp chats and there’s several minutes between them, is it then spamming?
Also how do you know he’s botting this, he could just be logging characters the whole time because here’s enough time between them. The problem here is that it’s not proven that he’s botting and, depending on your pov, he’s not spamming either.
One may dislike what he’s doing and I’ll agree to that, especially because of the effects it has, but if you petition him for spamming and botting you’re not going to get anywhere because this proves neither.
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Now you’re pretending to be stupid to try and rile me up.
Good luck with that.
Mr Epeen
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Oops, you’re right. I simply assumed you pasted them together in a single image if only because that would make more sense than someone purposely switching characters in the same npc corp to paste the same message, because there’s nothing inherently verboten about doing it on the same character. He’s putting in unnecessary effort.
Still not botting tho.
If you report them as isk spammers it does nothing because that feature only exists to report RMT, this isn’t RMT and so that does nothing other than block that person for you, what it ACTUALLY does is make the system waste time because they’re expecting an RMT guy and then do checks for that, which thus fails and energy and time is wasted.
GM’s can’t do anything because they’re not doing anything wrong technically (or if they were reported for botting it’s almost impossible to prove), there is NO POINT in reporting those people because of that, all you do is (again) waste time and effort at CCP (actual GM’s in this case, meant to help people) while you KNOW it achieves nothing. That’s counter productive at best.
Referral links exist because referral links work to get them more players, more active accounts, more logins and interactions. The numbers say it’s good and thus they’ll stay, I know how many people here love numbers so they should be fine with that. All we can hope for is for CCP to give us tools to avoid the spam of any kind based on message content like url, contracts or hyperlinks. And even that isn’t going to stop it because then they’ll just only write the message followed by “check my bio”.
I guess the real and only solution is to somehow get rid of the NPC corp concept or change it in a way that combats this issue (NPC corps are an ancient solution to an ancient coding problem anyway, I bet they can solve that these days).
Someone who keeps posting reasons why something CAN’T be done instead of suggesting a SOLUTION for the problem, is probably one of the people spamming recruit/gambling links all day, every day.
Mr Epeen
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I gave the solution.
There is no point to pretend something works while knowing it doesn’t, not only does it just waste time and effort it’s also really just a case special snow flake where just because it makes you feel better that justifies anything and everything, at the cost of other people (GM’s in this case) wasting time, time they could and should use for things they can actually help us with.
Thinking one’s so special and important that one doesn’t have to care about that and that one’s feelings are more important than facts, makes one a special snowflake.
Also no, I don’t spam (or even link) referrals or anything at all.
I’m fairly confident that CCP do in fact want the spammers there. They probably look at these screenshots, do a little Bob Ross smile, and say “look at all those happy little chatters!”
I doubt they have even one person on staff who plays their own game at this point. It’s just a bunch of senior marketing execs and unpaid interns doing the work, with one or two overworked senior programmers through whom everything has to go.
Don’t forget to save BIG on starter packs, guys!
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Which even it they are is nigh impossible to prove for normal GM’s who have to care about “tickets handled per hour” based on some hunch by someone who just wrote a ticket in anger.
It’s the only solution that would actually work, other than removal of referrals (which is not going to happen)
Easily circumvented by going “hey guys, I have some cool info in my bio especially for new players”. And just “spam” that.
If your solutions are based on a lack of logic or just plain thinking it through, don’t expect your solutions to have merit. People will punch holes in anything CCP comes with as a solution other than a draconian removal of the issue, be it referrals or npc corps. Because that’s what EVE players do, always have done and always will do.
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That’s reality we have to deal with yes. Pretending otherwise where emotion wins over facts and numbers means that person is living in lalaland.
I know how to solve this problem. Restrict access to alpha accounts in all chats (local, help channels, recruitments etc.), with the exception of the Rookie Help channel and private chats. I think that alpha accounts have too much access to the game, this needs to be fixed.
I think there might be a better solution here. Remove the reward for giving out the link. People will still give it out to help people, but the spam will go away.
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Call me crazy but I don’t see the 1m advert of hell spam as an issue, I even believe some random PUGs might find the extra SP links helpful in a pinch.
I do agree the messages are long and too often are annoying; maybe if there was an easy way to post them without having to use the whole chat window?
They want their spam links seen. Making them one sentence youd lose it over regular chat
There is no regular chat. It’s long gone. Who to thank?
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Mr Epeen 
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There it is. Simple, elegant, genius.
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Make one npc corp chat for each empire ( been years since i was in so, if there already, i apologie )
You know in eve twitch chat you can not post link ? same thing for npc chat corp, make that any link can not be posted, be corp link or external link
Have the chat moderated by some ISD or GM or whotever, so that they don’t just write their corp name.
Well…there’s the basic issue of who does a person return to if they leave a non-NPC corp. But the true resolution to it all is that even as an Alpha it takes literally 10 minutes to train up for Corp Management I…and create one’s own corp. Ah…blessed silence from all the plebs.
You think an MMO should be a bunch of one-man corps? Maybe you should go back to a single player game where you don’t need to jump through hoops to not have to talk to people.
Mr Epeen
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Ah…the infamous Cathy Newman ’ so you’re saying…?’
Pretty much what I’d expect from you.