I read that at least three times thinking you said “holobeaks” and was thoroughly confused by why any bird would have a holographic beak.
Dyslexia is real, LOL!
Also…what leaks?
hoboleaks. Type it into your browser’s address bar and see what you get.
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If capitals need to be jumped in.
And the cyno ship can not be kept safe buy a fleet.
Because of positioning.
The cyno ship can move into position, decloak and light its cyno as a burn maneuver.
Well, this should make everyone feel so much better…
I will leave this here so you may ponder jf cynos locking your Blockade Runners in place for 10m.
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this is I call speculation.
will the indy cyno still require cyno 5 or will it be usable with cyno 1 like the regular cyno?
btw … do people (mostly JF pilots impacted) agree that either the cyno change should be implemented as one change (inc. industrial cyno) or keep the cov-ops option alive for JF indefinitely?
oh piss off
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ty ccp just in time for wow classic
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yep, thanks. wasted multiple training certificates , money and time. disgrace.
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Does this mean a covert transport like a Viator can fit a choice of two types of cynos: covert or industrial?
Can this new cyno be lit in a cyno-jammed or Incursioned system?
who with sound mind would use T2 industrials for cyno in the form of 5mins lockdown (see. sisi).
Bahaha.
“Well we WERE going to give you covops JF cynos, but since you made such a fuss…”
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So can all of use JF pilots get refunds on the skill injectors we just wasted training cyno alts up to Cyno 5 now that its pretty much useless…
Yeah I think they realized that a covops cyno for JF’ing actually made it safer/faster (which doesn’t bode well with Chaos)
I assume they could have just as easily made a VIGIL CYNO module that simply shows the cyno affect but allows no ships to jump to it.
Saying you made a freighting cyno so that people can hold vigils seems a bit far stretched imo.
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change repackaged size for t1 indys to 1k m3 from 20k m3 ty
The only saving grace of the cyno change announcement in my mind was covert cynos for Jump Freighters. Necessitating a swap from mass T1 frigs to a couple covert cynos that moved around your route quickly was, to be honest, a good game design choice, pushing more active play. It forced JF pilots to put some skin in warping around instead of placing clones and liquid ozone at every stop. I appreciated the thought behind it, even though it pushed me to divert my training queue across 5 of my 9 characters.
This, however, is just a complete nerf to Jump Freighter logistics to make thankless jobs harder. The restriction to only fit to industrials, having to field a bulkier, more expensive, but equally defenseless ship, means that jump freighter quality of life is not your priority in this decision.
My request: Please reconsider allowing the use of covert cyno fields on Jump Freighters. Alternatively, please significantly reduce the cycle time on the Industrial Cynosural Field Generator and/or consider making the cynosural field not visible on overview.
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So, industrial ships are quite big, 20k m3 packaged. If I do a three cyno jump route, this means 60k m3 in cargo since I need to provide a replacement for each cyno ship which will be blown up.
JF cargo is in the 300 - 360k m3 range with expanders, or Jump Freighter V, meaning that I won’t be able to run 320k m3 contracts for Black Frog Freight as I did before. Is it the end of things ? Not really, I can adapt. But with this single change, you are hugely changing the JF route logistic. Especially for logistic corporations.
Quoting one corp member, “I am trying to find something positive about it, and failing, yeah”. Basically, that.
I have no opinion on the other aspects of the cyno changes, but as a JF pilot, it simply makes my life more difficult, without increasing risk (T1 or Noob ship, same story when they are locked for 10 minutes), nor reward. So all in one, a purely negative decision.
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Depends what you are doing.
Now that blockade runners can use it, you can use a covops to go through hostile space, light a covert, bridge a blockade runner, and use the BR to cyno in a JF.
Safe way to stock up a structure that is outside home territory.
Not sure are DST’s, though. Maybe a few people will honey dick with them.
Is this seriously the most important issue? Cyno vigils have nothing to do with gameplay. They’re cool and everything, but it shouldn’t be a deciding factor. There are way bigger balance changes that take precedence.
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