Some would take that as a fun challenge to find the best way to seed the cynos, and a reason to login. I could think about a dozen other more fun options than to jump 32j with a Badger …
So how would you do it?
Only using the Cyno alt as using the JF alt would entail an extra 22 jumps overall.
Things go right, the effort will pay off long term, if not my JF will be in Jita and on the market.
Either way I need to get it out of where it is.
Just moved the second one, was only 28 jumps total - Funny how deserted nulsec is right now. If it wasn’t so slow i could probably gate the JF.,.
Get the stuff built in your alliance home and backtrack from there? Check local market for indu sales? Travel via Thera? Scan your own wormhole chain? Ask an alliance mate for help seeding? Adjust midpoints to where production facilities are nearby, and ship the minerals/ore plus BPOs?
Also you need only one per midpoint/system, then jump in stock with the freighter as a preparation, and do so every time you run out of ships, if it’s a fixed route.
This being the operative phrase
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And if it’s not fixed, create cashes in strategic systems from where you can easily burn a cyno over to your pickup station. Else don’t take contracts you can’t serve. Nobody forces you to cyno everywhere.
You’re right. Which is why I’ve stopped hauling until I see how this all shakes out.
And that’s why the cyno changes have significant impact on the independent haulers. Because none of them are taking the ‘one and done’ contracts now. Are we supposed to believe they’re the guys whose income CCP wanted to limit?
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So not only are small group/solo JF pilots now unable to service many contracts due to the sheer size of New Eden but those who relied on them to supply what they needed have to pack up and move out - I’m sure this was CCP’s intention, aren’t you?
Every contract I can’t take is one that makes my JF less useful as an income source (after 6 years). I may as well at this point sell my JF and go back to shooting NPC’s for isk.
Why should i put all the extra time and effort into the game when CCP clearly don’t want me to?
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I’d be happy for a 60m cyno.
will the Marshal Black Ops Battleships gain a 50% role bonus to Cynosural Field Generator duration to thare is noting on it.
We should be able to open cyno with cover ops. I understand the idea for ccp to change cyno but hey, 330m for a force recon to be an easy target (or a trap) easy killed by an orthrus passing by…
We need a cheaper option. And frig size.
So yeah, i am alone, i wanted to stream dual dreds farming in c5, i knew I will die, i just refused to don’t react when my pilgrim was agressed by a panther, I’ve undocked and i knew i will die, bcse pissed off this new garbage mecanic of beeing able to open a cyno only with force recon and black op.
This is the resutl : https://zkillboard.com/kill/78998634/ and https://zkillboard.com/kill/78998633/
So now, if you are not part of a big alliance or a big entity you can’t moove any capitals. I got 100m sp, and i have to say : i can’t play capitals ships and bring them in wh space anymore. So yeah, after all those years, it is a part of the game who end for me.
I think i will keep playing cheap ships, make small casual hunt, be bored soon, have no money and this is it. Thx to think only about big null sec alliance when you do this kind of patch CCP, thank you…
Post scriptum : there is no challange at all for old players, only a new opportunity to give free kills of force recon (350m about) nothing else and again your logic is only oriented null sec.
I’m a hauler and these changes are making the game harder than it already was as a JF pilot with three accounts.
You guys seems to have no idea about logistics, cost & risk - srsly now …
For war machines, unless you’re a part of a big group … game over
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Welcome kristen and thank you for sharing your experience.
Edit : your hauling cyno cost is 5-6 million about because you can use T1 industrial to open cyno… I know it is a pain for you to bring some each time you got kill but you have now to take some in your cargo and you loose transport volume.
yeah adding another 50 or 60 mil per trip for cynos is no problem, as long as you belong to a mega group who can absorb the extra costs, otherwise it comes out of the JF’s profits.
Again yes, because cutting further into a JF pilots profits is fine. Every m3 of space used to carry replacement industrial’s is less isk for the pilot.
This change does nothing but give the mega groups further advantage over small/er groups.
My next trip to Jita will be my last, I’ll sell my JF and extract the 3 accounts associated with it.
CCP obviously don’t want small/er groups and individuals to be able to compete with the mega groups, so why even try.,.
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Don’t do it, I have biomassed my character bcse of those big groups issue, you will regreat, just cross fingers that it will be fixed.
Keep staying indipedant, even if it is hard, nobody can take you out what you achieve. And you can be proud of your choice of beeing outside mega group.
It’s impossible to stay independent as a JF pilot now, imagine that you have to to a Stain trip from Jita … you’ll need to move or have blueprints (and minerals) in order to build the T1 industrials on every single station you’d jump, that alone is a bottleneck - I can’t imagine how I would carry a T1 industrial using gates deep in npc nullsec.
I won’t biomass my character, but if the game isn’t fun … less and less players will be online.
Not to mention that if you have a capital war machine, you’ll need to risk 2-300M isk ship just to jump from one system to another, that is insane! I really don’t understand what CCP is trying to accomplish with these changes but for now … it seems that we need to take an even longer break from EVE, which is sad … but anyway, CCP game, not ours.
Have you tried? You just look lazy to me.
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Make null great again and bring those players back!
I want to resub my capital accounts, but a 25% discount is no incentive. Let null seccers use their toys again without needing yet another account for a recon pilot. Give us the chance to resub!