Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
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Write us a new storyline in the game with Triglav 
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Wow!!!
You all know there is “Description” tab in each character info window. It’s character’s bloodline description.
There are 11 known bloodlines. Amarr, Khanid, Ni-Kunni in Amarr Empire. Achura, Deteis, Civere in Caldari State. Jin-Mei, Intaki, Gallente in Gallente Federation. Brutor, Vherokior, Sebiestor in Minmatar Republic. Static and Modifier in Jove Empire (Note Veniel on the screenshot).
There is this file where these descriptions are stored. Its located in \EVE\SharedCache\tq\bulkdata\3200002.cache2
Not really big news, as the file was last modified on 16.05.2018, but interestingly there are these entries also:
The Narodnya appear to be one of the three mysterious subdivisions of the Triglavian race that individuals can fall into alongside their membership of the so-called Clades.
The Koschoi appear to be one of the three mysterious subdivisions of the Triglavian race that individuals can fall into alongside their membership of the so-called Clades.
The Navka appear to be one of the three mysterious subdivisions of the Triglavian race that individuals can fall into alongside their membership of the so-called Clades.
And so they are bloodlines in Triglavian race.
Strangely there are 6 DB entries for each bloodline. Separate entry for each Clade or something?
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Yesterday in EVE Vegas 2019, Uriel got to ask a final question in CCPs AMA. He asked when would we get to make an autopsy on Triglavian corpse, and they basically dismissed it and laughed.
What I think he meant was, when would we get to know more about Triglavians as people? We got the ships, the suits, we got invasions, they are constantly interacting with us, yet we’ve never got to see a Triglavian without a mask, dead or alive. Who and what are they? What are their goals? What are they up to? These questions have been there unanswered for so long, the lore starts to feel shallow and dull.
Just a gimmick to add new ships and do incursions facelift.
Didn’t want to be negative about it, I felt mildly optimistic watching the presentations, but when it comes to the lore I just… and they dismiss it and laugh.
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Yes, Rise laughed, but Burger seemed instead to deflect the question - more of a “no comment” than a dismissal. I didn’t expect them to give a direct answer to that query (even though it was a good question to remind them of the efforts and lore research here).
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Knowing how Burger does things, that’s not something to worry about - he’s very scheming and teasing about all this stuff, and I asked the question more to get the idea out there than to get an answer 
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That’s something of a relief. I want MOAR LORE! 
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Forgot about:
Tibus Heth, Silphy en Diabel, Trald Vukenda, Korako Kosakami and Jirai Laitanen, Omir Sarikusa, Jacus Roden, Kezti Sundara, Einnar Aeboul, Pomik Haromi, Dr. Garcia, Marcus Jror …
And these are not all the characters. It is a pity that the plot is now not connected with the Main Factions. 
This is clearly with a purpose and intentional. Remember how Jove space ended up being never utilized for players and always disconnected and not seen? Thats the same thing.
I still do have some of those links.
I’ve been using this API link to get a character ID and then to create an in-game notebook link:
https://api.eveonline.com/eve/CharacterID.xml.aspx?names=Dochuta Karsoth
<url=showinfo:1375//2113651182>Oveg Drust</url>
Those API tools don’t work anymore though.
And those characters lack any lore description anyway.
It still doesn’t make any sense to me why did they have to remove Jove ships models.
You couldn’t fly them anyway. I could spin Eidolon for hours.
The ships were a nice piece of lore, CONCORD historical reports.
Unless they wanted to chop off and retcon some Jove stuff. Drifter ships design looks similar to that of Jove Observatories and has nothing to do with biotech/insect like looks of Jove ships / Station (mothership).
Maybe we should sign a petition to bring Jove ships back?
IIRC their models weren’t compatible with the game’s new graphics engine, and CCP wasn’t interested in expending time and effort on modernizing ships that no one was ever going to see in the foreseeable future.
Send it where? That would change nothing. Petitions doesnt work with totalitarian dictatorship like CCP is. Maybe it would bring them an idea, if they did not had it yet, but I think they know about that Jove space and people wanting it to have purpose anyway. If CCP doesnt have plans to expand on Jove lore and spend resources on the ships you cant see in space doing something, petitions will change nothing. Now we have Triglavians, if players and CCP will get bored of them, they could think about something else, maybe Jove. Then it would be good time to remind them. Maybe that petition, but effect would be comparable with thread in players ideas or on reddit.
They introduced all those pirate factions before and incursions without giving us sort of finale, we will probably end up with triglavians and drifters being permanent additions, fithout clear resolution. Jove didnt got to that point where you can shoot them tho, or even hacking the wrecks, like those terran colony ships in relic sites, even they have some ship representation…
Jove could be reintroduced in the same manner, by giving them purpose, even when it would be decayed wreck in space to hack, together with their decayed space. Maybe one day…
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Being a real life amateur photographer, I noticed some interesting images in the backdrop of a Tier II Agitated Exotic Abyssal.
The first image shows what appear to be far away stars nestled in a nebula. The distance would have to be at least 10 light years from my current location.
The second and third image shows the edge of a Triglavian space merging with what appears to be normal space or New Eden. Once again a far away star surrounded by dust can be seen
The fourth image is definitely a galaxy with a large sun or many suns around a black hole.
What is obvious is that the Abyssal sites must be the leading edge of the Triglavian galaxy merging with ours. Each type of Abyssal filament giving us access to the changes in the environments taking place between the Triglavian and New Eden galaxies. Each Tier of an Abyssal site being a leading edge base of scouts. Scouts that would report back to the center of Triglavian space what had entered Triglavian space through the filaments and how well the operation to replace non-Triglavian space with Triglavian was proceeding.
What Abyssal space could be is that its environment might be what you would encounter a few thousand light years from the center of a galaxy. Crushing gravity and very few planets, just remnants or shards of the beginning of a galaxy that would permit life to exist but only along very precise parameters.
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Alas! It will not happen. Not a single old character returned in 5 years when they started changing “Lore,” and the ships won’t return so much.
Ships Аngels are also Jove ships.
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Greetings, fellow pilots.
A small OOC warning ahead of the main body: Post may contain knowledge of our current, real world brought into conjunction with in game proceedings and knowledge. For the sake of roleplay, I also took some liberteis in regards to how this knowledge got into New Eden. I hope you’ll understand.
As the thread on the Enheduanni Lore is closed by the system administrator unfortunately, I wanted to share my supporting research of the “Enheduanni = Triglavians” speculation in this topic.
I wanted to share my speculation from an in-character perspective. If you are not inclined towards this, please skip the first two parts as well as the closing part.
I came up with the relationship myself, but noted while looking for the right place to post today that @Festmester_Uctionsson already came up with this link before here, even though he didnt pursue it further, as it seems.
RP Pretext
I went to the scientific library, set on my goals for today. I wanted to see whether I could dig up something on the Triglavians. Not out of sheer interest. Out of the will to pay those bastards back!
I’ve never been a fervent follower of Jamyl’s as I really never understood the whole custom of the rituals and sacrifices nobility has to undertake in order to “ascend”. For me, the Heavenly and Holy resides in the small things like molecules, atoms, nanites, and quants, not in some gestures, words and incantations. But maybe that’s why I’ve chosen to pursue a scientific career instead of a political or clerical one.
But still. They murdering one of ours – I just cannot let that go.
I entered the reading hall and passed the receptionists sitting at their designated places. A brief nod, they knew me from my recent visits.
Passing the great reading hall, I set my acoustic receptors to filter out the flirring sounds of the electronic display devices which hung on the walls and displayed general information about the library. I was headed to the smaller alcoves where working undisturbed from the majority of the other Viziam employees was possible.
I sat down, took several long breaths and reviewed in my mind was I knew, what I wanted to know and laid out a plan for a path how to get there. I plugged the cable from the VR Holoreader into the little chrome jack behind my left ear. Transparent windows with little flashing buttons rushed into my field of sight. I closed most of them, as they were assistants and guidelines how to search the databanks and catalogues of the library. Then I opened up the main catalogue itself and began typing in the search string to start of my research.
Several hours later I had the results I was looking for and had gathered the material I needed. Now I just had to write everything down so I could publish it.
The findings would hardly prove to be groundbreaking. But maybe they’d inspire somebody else to start where I left off and find something which could be used against the Trigs. I saved them temporarily in the Memory implant. While the files, links and other pieces of information were rushing over the thin silver data cord ranging from the library’s host system console to my head, I reviewed them.
Introductory Rambling & Background
The first topic I gathered information on was the central theory that the Triglavians were the Enheduanni. Sure, several facts were already pointing towards this, but I wanted not only further substantiate the theory, but also try to dig up some additional information on their nature and their relation to the Sleepers and the Drifters, if possible.
While it was an unproven theory as well that the Drifters were the “others”, a number of artificial conscious entities which developed (on their own?) in the VR environment of the Jove fraction called the Sleepers or Architects, I had not much facts to start with. Except maybe for the names.
Triglav, triglavian. Basically the meaning of the word Is derived from an ancient language which is not home to New Eden anymore. According to the Archeotechs who surveyed some remnants of an old database found in a system close to the Eve gate several hundred years ago, the language or at least its radical was called “Slavic”. In this language, Triglav was considered a deity with three heads. Easy for us to understand, I thought to myself, as the word itself involves the prefix “tri”, which – and that is an assumption – we can also find in “trinary”, the positional notation underlying the current Sleeper technology. Some claim it was the key to quantum technology: Contrary to binary systems, which only have bits which can be expressed as either “0” or “1” (which basically means that you have to decide on either in order to proceed with your computations, something is either true or false), the trinary system (sometimes also called ternary system) has “trits”, which can be either expressed as “0”, “1”, and “2” or “-1”, “0”, and “1”. We can interpret this as the third characteristic having an “undecided” value (or a “maybe”). This allows for computations based on assumptions, which in turn allows for branching of computations and computing several possibilities at the same time as opposed to chaining computations in the binary system.
Be that as it may, this will lead too much into information technology, where I was not headed with the research at hand.
Main Part
Focussing back on the central hypothesis, the Triglavian side of things would not lead me to any results. That was the point where I started to look at the meaning of the second side to the assumption, the term “Enheduanni”.
Again an ancient database close to the Eve gate, again some hints from a culture (almost) long forgotten: A team of Archeotechs founds records of a person called “Enheduanna”.
The story takes places on an unknown planet in an unknown system. Enheduanna, princess and daughter to a very influential king was, in another city, also instated as high priestess of the goddess of love, Inanna, and high-priestess as well as “wife” to a god called Nanna. Nanna was considered the god of the moon of said planet as well as guardian to the priestesses city.
A new man of power – Lugalane – arose within the city and tried to take over power. As such, he wanted the support of the high priestess (which also wielded political influence through her father in no small measure) in the role of the city’s guardian god. Enheduanna declined his request (or: outright refused him), upon which Lugalane not only relieved her of her clerical duties and stripped her of her office in the city, but he also defiled and destroyed the temple, putting a knife in Enheduannas hand and suggesting the priestesses suicide.
Enheduanna chose the exile over ending her life. Separated from her temple to Nanna, from the exile she prayed fervently to Inanna. While she starts out with sounding out praise to the great goddess, after a while she also discloses her complaints to the goddess in her prayer. She tells her of Lugalane’s wrongdoings and that Nanna, god of the moon and protector of the city, has not intervened, tolerating this behavior.
This is basically where the records become indecipherable. Information fragments indicate that the high priestess was later reinstated in her office. What became of Lugalane, however, is not mentioned.
While this passed down story certainly offers no hard scientific evidence, one could draw certain resemblances:
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The Enheduanni were instated as caretakers or shepherds to the Architects or Sleepers, much as a high priest of a deity is the caretaker of the belief’s followers or believers.
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A strong man arose in the city under Enheduannas protection, much as one or more conscious, artificial entities (the “others”) arose and spurred rebellion in the sleeper VR construct under the Enheduannis care. Basically the others robbed the Enheduanni of their influence over the Architects, much as Lugalane robbed Enheduanna of her influence by exiling her.
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The priestess was exiled, nothing was heard from her any more. This could be interpreted as “went into hiding” or “nothing was seen from her anymore”, much as the Enheduanni vanished completely and without a trace from existence after the “others” appeared.
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Arking back to the central hypothesis and assuming that indeed the Triglavians are the Enheduanni, an also striking parallel between both are the firm believe in a divine order, or that a deity or god will assist them.
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Generally we can derive that for divine assistance, the adherence to a superimposed rule framework (loosely translated into “commandments” or similar articles of faith) is necessary.
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The priestess Enheduanna from the story offers her obedience and loyalty in the form of a prayer and praise; meanwhile, the Triglavians or Enheduanni also speak of a prayer and also of a rule framework called “flow of vyraj”, which was corrupted by the ways of someone else.
RP Closing part
While this certainly are only indications and offer by no means any conclusive proof, it’s a first step in the right direction.
I was content whith today’s results. I jacked out and left the library. All I had to do now was to compile this information in a rough scientific article, add some sources and get in touch with my friend over at the Archeologist’s Den how I liked to call it. Shed flesh the rest out, add herself as an author and publish the paper in one of those magazines.
I accessed my schedule while I was walking down the station’s corridors back to the dining district. All the searching left me hungry. A translucent display occupied the left part of my field of vision, the next two weeks were displayed along with a couple appointments. One stood out, marked in bright red. “Research on Triglavian Entropic Disintegrators” / “Possible Countermeasures” it read. I sighed. At that time I had quite some work left to do before I could finally make my way back to the blissful silence of Anoikis.
Looking forward to your thoughts on this.
o7
Fly safe.
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