Just a draft. A new FW that would be enemy of all pirate factions PW. Meant for players who want to fight those pirates but don’t want to choose sides.
I don’t think that any plexes are needed, but perhaps some new sites that can spawn in insurgence systems? I am not really familiar with that mechanic. Just want to fight angel and gurista players without siding to minmatar or caldari really.
Yeah, I’m gonna go with no…
Every combat action in EVE comes with a corresponding loss in standing to the opposing faction, the sole exceptions being unaffiliated mercs and rogue drones.
Ok so? Where is the problem?
I don’t understand. Did I imply that shooting enemy FW will not decrement that faction standings somewhere? Or there has to be more than enemy faction standings to lose?
This. Every combat action against a faction incurs standing loss not only with that faction, but every faction who is allied with that faction. It’s called derived standings.
For example, if you did a storyline combat mission for Caldari, you would gain standing with Caldari and about 7 other factions, but you would lose faction standing with about 9 other opposing factions.
I still don’t follow where is a problem. As I said I do not do FW. Can you explain to me in details?
Why would this be a problem? I didn’t write details, assume it will follow normal rules logically. Is there reason why normal rules can’t apply here?
What has your example above anything to do with my proposal?
@DeMichael_Crimson can explain it far better than I can…
CONCORD isn’t really suitable for FW, for the reasons @QuakeGod alluded to. Just off the top of my head I can think of several types of shenanigans players would come up with.
Not sure if I understand correctly… From what I read, the OP wants to fight Pirates in a FW type setting… Now this is where I get lost, is he talking about Player Pirates or NPC Pirates?
If it’s NPC Pirates, well, they’re all over the place, especially in NPC Null Sec space…
Now if it’s Player Pirates, isn’t that what the Deathless Circle and system of Zarzakh was all about? As for fighting Player Pirates in a Faction War type setting with complexes and stuff, I believe that’s what the Pirate Incursions are for, players can choose to align with Pirates or Empire or just go in neutral and be red to everyone…
About the derived standings, seems CCP / FC is trying to do away with that… Just recently they posted this:
So yeah, that’s pretty much about all I know…
They want to run CONCORD FW with a Concord Tactical Destroyer as an LP item from the CONCORD store.
Really?
Well, guess I’d like to have that too… 
This. I can apply to caldari if I want to be able to shoot at Gurista players but those are scarce and it won’t let me shoot Angel players. Or Minmatar against Angel right. I want to be able to shoot both Gurista and Angel players in highsec. I will check Deathless then.
I’m pretty sure when a Pirate Insurgency corrupts a high sec system into Lawless, anybody can shoot anybody they want in there with no Concord reaction…
Anyway, I just have a basic understanding, I don’t know any specific details or actual rules pertaining to Pirate Insurgencies, Sansha Incursions, Deathless / Zarzakh System or Triglavian / Pochven Region…
I suggest you do plenty of research first before engaging in anything pertaining to or involved with that content…
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What you’re asking for is to add EDENCOM to FW as a separate faction. Originally it was going to be EDENCOM npcs that were in the insurgency plexes, but a lot of FW players didn’t like that because they are pro Trig. Which is why those npc’s are Mordu’s Legion now.
Adding EDENCOM and having it be a faction that is at war with the Angel and Guristas factions wouldn’t be terrible. If any other pirate factions are added to FW, EDENCOM would be at war with them as well. Not to mention, if Trigs ever make it to FW, they’ll be at war with everyone.
EDENCOM is CONCORD.