What toxic the truth?
They are calling for an unwarranted nerf simply because they took a bad fight and lost.
I’ve died eleventy billion times in EVE. Every time it was my fault 
The Navy destroyers still get absolutely wrecked by any similarly fit T3D. More dps, better tank, longer range, faster, more agile, and better looking.
So, even with the new shiny toy, all is right with the world.
Thankee for speaking the truth
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However, navy destroyers are much cheaper… and can access more hard-to-reach places in lowsec.
LOL and?
They can still get popped at the gate
Sorry, I meant in complexes. NVY Smalls
A condor can reach even more places. Imagine a Condor taking out a Coercer Navy Issue. That would make it even more OP than Navy Destroyers.
I don’t have to imagine, nerf the condor!
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The challenge was surviving more than 10 seconds by optimizing transversal, as you seemed to believe I didn’t do.
If you recall the context, I had friends near, and the idea was being able to rep through at least enough for them to help out.
Not even able to do that in a fully blinged out HG rep special even.
But I guess we’re passed you comprehending that context.
Because the active rep gameplay I enjoy will accumulate dust from now on.
Done repeating myself.
10 seconds in a fully blinged out T1,
Imagine how long a normal T1 would last.
Except it is, against more than one of those things, active rep playstyle is DOA, whichever way you want to turn this around.
Sure they can, and makes imbalances against other playstyle stand out even more, for all to see.
Not a Nado, not enough alpha with a stock T2 one, a proper Mach will work charms tho.
Not one, many, note how I wrote “full of” ?
Reading comprehension issue fr fr
Oh, so we’re moving goal posts. Got it
This actually tells me you know I’m right, and you’re being intellectually dishonest.
Awesome
It won’t, you just shouldn’t try it on kite fits
Why should a “normal” T1 last longer, outnumbered, aganist navy variant ships?
You could say that of any fit in an outnumbered fight Which you keep omitting
No? Because despite you saying you have friends, apparently you can’t fleet up with them in your myrm to kill these guys.
So yes, skill issue
Your belief that I didn’t use transversal to my advantage in that fight was what sparked it, so if you could prove to have done better, it would’ve helped your cause a little bit.
You are right to an extent, but disregarding the context, only makes you half-right.
Did you not see how fast i melted that 1600mm plated Oracle in an AC FleetThrasher ?
Do you really think even a T1 blinged active cruiser would last nearly as long against 2 of those things in brawl fit ? …
At least “enough” not to make that choice of strategy completely obsolete.
Comparing the nuances of dosage is hard, I know.
“outnumbered” has far gone to become a subjective entity in this discussion.
So there’s really no point going further with it.
Solo flying an active rep myrm into a furball of frigs and destroyers was something I really enjoyed doing, providing I could establish fun or isk positive exchanges by popping a few before I either blew up, or cleared the field.
With more than 2 Navy Destroyers on field, my chances of any meaningful exchanges in that regard, are dumbed down considerably, and since they’re almost in every plex now, well …
Sure, and it’s one shiny toy more to add to the obsolescence of an active rep playstyle.
Actually my belief is you took a fight you shouldn’t have, got blapped and cried to CCP.
All facts
Nope, and you know it You got cocky with your implants and your bling and overestimated. And EVE killed you for it. Happens every day.
Learn, don’t cry.
Again, you used a brawl fit vs a kite fit and the usual happened.
Who says? You realize once they introduced things like tiers, eventually T1 would fall by the wayside right? You can use T1, I still use T1 all the time.
However, it comes with limitations, and that’s just truth.
Mm no, its actually an important fact. You fought 2v1 and lost. It isn’t shocking bruh. You merely overestimated yourself
Have you tried?
Let’s actually translate what this is saying.
You’re afraid. So you won’t take the fight. Before, you were confident with your bling and your fittings. You knew you could win the fight probably darn near 100%.
Now? Now there is doubt. And instead of putting in the time and death to learn it again, you simply fall to your knees and pray to daddy CCP to save you.
Mm nope, you just found a rock to your scissors.
And instead of adapting, you sob to CCP to nerf.
Your actions speak for yourself homeskillet
Finally reach the core of my complaint,
More Tiercide = More room given to various gametyle obsolescence.
No need to try, I already know what it would look like from using navy destroyers myself now, so skill issue fr fr, I would not take such profiles in such fits.
What CCP does:
Change a piece of paper into cardboard and still call it paper and tell all the scissors to HTFU and adapt.
Or
Change a pair of Scissors into plasma beams and still call it Scissors and tell all the Papers to HTFU and adapt.
/thread
The solution isn’t to nerf the navy thrasher.
If you want to use T1, no one is stopping you. But you will hit hard limitations.
It’s why you need to pick fights carefully. Your bling carried you before. The meta has changed now.
Ah yea. So afraid. Got it
That’s all MMOs.
But let’s not pretend you did either of those things.
You cried in two separate threads
No, picking my fights.
Because, literally quoting yourself:
It was already hit by harder limitations, with T3Ds and the DPS update a few years ago.
Indeed, but Eve is especially KING at it.
It is. So adapt.
Don’t cry
I must have missed it, where does zkillboard show time taken?
I assume a guesstimate based on dealt damage and damage output potential of said Navy Thrashers? 
Get your credit card out, fly a loki.