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I also strongly believe that there is plenty of room within Eve for pilots like Salvos Rhoska to express whatever their opinions are about anything and everything. I would really hope that nobody would fall into the trap of wanting to report Salvos for expressing his own personal viewpoint and opinions, whatever they may be.

I can only hope that everyone will always feel free to attack any pilot’s ideas and opinions and dreams and that nobody will ever fall into the trap of reporting someone with whom you may violently disagree with please. Just go get the whatever violence needs to be done according to the rules that we all live and die by within the crazy laws of the Eve Universe.

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:smiley:
That’s fine
I like you already hahah

I utterly refute that I’m being bought. No-one has, or will, ever caused me to support something. I have received no income for being on the CSM.

Clear enough? I doubt, however, you’re going to believe me, or that there is anything I can do to make you believe me.

You’re deliberately misquoting me, with regards to the income I have from Patreon. You’re ignoring that the income and more is entirely swallowed by the costs I have to run the services which I run (for free, for all eve players)

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If you operate your sites at a loss, thats your choice to do so.

That doesnt change that any and all donation via Patreon offset your loss as overhead, and as 3rd party sites, earn CCP nothing.

By your own testimony, you have only earned $88 in all preceding years combined, yet this year you suddenly expect $552.

That stinks. Badly.

Either you are very bad at accounting, or you are obfuscating those accounts.

Not really a guess. There is plenty circumstantial evidence which shows he is indeed noty playing the game.

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Nope.

Not by my testimony.

By your willful misinterpretation of facts I have provided. You do not have enough information to judge how much income I had in 2016. Or 2017. or 2018. What you have is the income for the period of july 2016, to the current data. That is $640

You also have my current donation rate. which is $46.

What you don’t have is the peaks and troughs in between (other than my mention of a single month where I had a donation rate of $48) This means that any conjecture that you have is just that. Conjecture.

But you seem intent on smearing me. Why is that? That stinks. Badly.

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CCP has not earned even one cent off fuzzworks website, not any other site by Steve.

Thats a cold, hard fact.

He’s apparently never heard of links for a start. IIRC there’s several direct links to CCP on Fuzzworks, any of which could have indirectly earned CCP money

See above.

We’ll add how the world wide web works to the evergrowing list of stuff you don’t understand.

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None of which refutes that CCP hasnt earned a single cent on them, and in this case, all donated revenue goes to Steve.

How much revenue has Steve earned for CCP?

Is that also not a concern, considering he has been a CSM for 5years running?

It goes to his hosting provider. He isn’t trying to make money, he’s offsetting the cost of providing a free service to his fellow Eve players.

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I can tell you.
None. Zero.

Only Steve is getting the money donated to him.

Thats up to you, but doesnt change that only Steve gets the donations to his Patreon, not CCP.

Prove CCP has made one cent off the Steves site.
Prove that any of the donations he receives end up in CCPs pocket.

Feel free to report @Steve_Ronuken for this to @CCP_Falcon and see what the response is. I’m pretty sure you will find everyone involved is 100% OK with how things are

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tbh, no-one can quantify the income a third party site provides for CCP.

Have I caused some people to start additional accounts, to do industry with? (as it scales well) Anecdotally, at least a few. How long did they produce income? No clue. I’ve not tracked the people who have mailed me about it.

And there are people who used my referral code to start accounts. Can I claim them? Probably not.

Does this have any relevance to me being on the CSM? Nope, none at all.

Could I ‘make’ more money by not running the sites? Yep. Because I spend more on them than I get.

Of course, from what you’re saying here, you’d not be happy unless no-one but CCP had any income (regardless of outgoing costs. Say goodbye to any killboard, or alliance infrastructure)

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Is it correct that in all preceding years, you have only receives $88, and now this year expect $552?

You claimed $640 as your gross revenue total since you began the site and being CSM.

Well played sir!
:joy::joy::wink:

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We already know that the donations from Steve’s free service go towards hosting and that CCP don’t get a piece of that particular, very small, pie. CCP are fine with that as they allow 3rd party sites to do exactly that.

Which part of that do you find hard to understand?

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How many of those 6 are subbed by cash, and for how long?

That Steve made that possible for you, does not mean the donations he has received are passed into CCP, even by a cent. They go to Steves pocket, only.