Current Loot System (PvP)

[Salvos_Rhoska]

@Dom_Arkaral

And the current form is balanced for everyone.

No, its not.

You can’t steal isk.

[Bl00dyAngel]

off course you can. but that need a different type of play style

[Dom_Arkaral]

I can’t steal isk but I can steal assets

[Daichi_Yamato]

You can steal rats though.

[P3ps1_Max]

Not your specific loot tard, randomly generated rewards for pvp activity.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEad

[P3ps1_Max]

Can’t maintain grid presence or alt presence, please be more specific.

[Vaacos]

Even worse idea, adding items into the game for no reason.

[P3ps1_Max]

@March_rabbit

For start ISK bounty and loot are mechanically different things. One is electronic information and other is physical objects. “Ticks” are perfectly logical to reduce network load while sending ISK rewards. But redeeming system for physical items makes no sense. That’s about game lore.

Keeping game lore away looting mechanics adds another layer of player interaction. Not only you kill stuff or die but you compete for loot. That’s why killing wrecks is red while stealing is only yellow.

Removing loot mechanics and replacing it with anything which remove competition for loot not only not needed but is bad for the game.

Another look at the same story: what do you mean with “for all involved on the kill”? It’s easy to see that each participant had different role and weight in the kill. For example: tackler/scanner is the most important while F1 monkey - is just another percent of damage. (The most difficult case - logi pilots, they might never appear on the killmail while sometimes taking all the heavy lifting in the fight). If you want to make fair system for sharing loot you would need to set it up properly to measure every pilot share in the kill. And this task is not solved by all killboards yet.

Not comparing the two and I agree they are different. Player interaction is being rewarded for taking part in activities with corp mates.

Competing for loot… or who has the alts readily available?

LOL you’re concerned about logi pilots? haha

[P3ps1_Max]

@Vaacos

Even worse idea, adding items into the game for no reason.

Adding items?

[Mephiztopheleze]

Speaking as one who routinely flies, and loses, retardedly expensive PvP frigates: HELL NO!

Depending on how fickle Mademoiselle Loot Fairy is feeling, there cam easily be north of ISK150m of shiny mods in my wrecks.

Why should that ‘automatically’ go to those who popped me? (GF in any event)

My mates should have the chance of looting my wreck. Hell I should have the chance to loot my own wreck if I can reship fast enough. And yes, the ninja looters should also have a crack at it.

I actually managed to do exactly that earlier today. Nabbled almost my whole fit back after burning like mad.

If I could suggest ONE small change, looting should break immunity. Currently, it’s possible for an insta-warp ceptor to warp in, loot and warp off again without becoming lockable. Opening a can or wreck should break the brief invulnerability you have once you land.