I don’t know what exploits you’re referring to, but I find it funny that you seem upset right out the gate. I was fortunate to get to play a little with Monk before his departure, but one thing I know he did was provide us with a sense of community between those that did assorted nefarious things.
You will have a very hard time running for CSM with any part of your platform pertaining to maintaining the risk and consequences of consenting to pvp when you undock. Really seems like most people prefer eve to be their own personal farming simulator.
The watchlist was very much a QOL thing and I agree that you can still function without it, and really forces you to have smaller, more focused and personal wars where it’s relatively simpler to keep track of your targets.
For someone who wants to reduce toxidity you’re doing it wrong. I’d say you just now exposed who’s alt you are. it wasn’t hard to guess before, but now you’ve overdone it.
I’ve done nothin of the sort…we live in a world of millions and cooincidences happen. Do as you will please. I might even be playing with your mind…I’ve looked at the idol’s twitter…this holey person. It’s fun playing games…you deserve a like for playing along.
Also… I mean… We have this thread, asking the prime strategies for pissing people off, another literally asking if it’s “still” against the rules to kill newbs in newb systems, and… just… guys.
It’s one thing to say your “enemies”, the “carebears” want to turn EvE into their own personal “farming simulator”. But it’s kind of obvious that you also want your own personal farm.
They want to shoot rocks with no effort.
You want to shoot players with no effort.
Tone down the self-righteousness a smidge. Play EvE how you like, but the attitude of superiority is highly misplaced. Shoot dem newbs. But admit that you’re hardly the Scourge Of New Eden.
(Also, you’re one of hundreds who do the same thing you do, be you miner or ganker. )
I have just launched off my EVE criminal career by committing my first suspect-level offenses (solo ninja-looting in hi-sec). The payout was pretty lame, but I’m still training. Have a heavy hitter in store in case I get a chance for ransoming.
Combat probing is pretty hard for Alpha because I can’t train the proper skills, but I’m going to get Omega once I get the hang of it. The upside is that I get really good practice with combat probing if I train with severely deficient skills.
Keep at it and practice. Depending on what you’re doing, baiting can be somewhat tedious but it’s worth it when you get that aggression timer
I also suggest you head on over and read Feyd’s blog. He no longer plays eve, but has a lot of great content and information there. Some is outdated, but still relevant and can be re-applied differently today.
If you have questions, just ask. You can also head on over to the channel, “Belligerent Undesirables” in-game and get some tips or just chat about your latest neat thingy you’ve done.
Once upon a time ninja looting or salvaging was pretty profitable in itself, but the value of the loot has gone down a lot over the years. It’s still okay for brand new newbies, but for the rest of us the decent isk and fun is baiting people to shoot at you and then killing and/or ransoming, or stealing their ships.
It’s been awhile since I did this stuff, but some tactics that I had decent luck with back in the day include shooting people’s MTUs, or hanging around off a station or gate somewhere with a suspect flag trying to look like I’m afk. Trying to look as newbie-ish as possible helps - newbie corp, self named ships, that sort of thing.
Talk to the Belligerent Undesirables, they can give you tips or possibly backup if you need reps or something.
Thank you both, it’s a good advice. I think I might set up the channel, sometimes it’s good to have a chat with like-minded people for those times when you need to chill out a bit.
My corp is still Minmatar Military School and my ships are self-named, so I guess I look as newbie as can be.
I can’t stress the ask advice enough. There’s nothing we in Crime and Punishment enjoy more than answering legit questions and giving advice on being a villain. (Said advice can also be used to avoid being a victim for the people who prefer not to have fun)
I got my Vigil blown up into little bits of space junk within 15 seconds from entering a lvl 4 mission pocket by the NPC rats lol. So I had a change of heart about my chosen career path and joined the Merc Academy instead.
At least I know how to find people in empty space using Dscan and combat probes now. That’ll come handy in any Eve career I’m sure.
Yes, Vigils were the go-to ninja salvaging boat years ago. It used to be that NPCs wouldn’t switch targets after they targeted somebody, so you were pretty safe warping into somebody’s mission. They would all be shooting at the mission runner. Sometimes all you had to do was warp scramble him until the rats could finish him off.
Nowadays you need something with a bit more survivability. Cruisers or assault frigates have always worked pretty well for me. Fit a tank.
Thanks. I guess it serves me right for trusting ancient guides in the internet and also proves the point everyone has been telling me since the beginning - you shouldn’t try to hack the game solo as a rookie.
When people tell you to find a corp for learning, they usually leave out details, like:
how there’s lots of noobcorps out there who don’t teach you anything beyond the rails CCP provides for the game.
how the reason why CCP tells everyone to tell people to join corps is, because the game offers an amount of freedom most people can’t handle, because they need someone to tell them what to do.
that the biggest reason why you should join a corp isn’t for learning, but because it raises thechance of you subscribing, or at least sticking, to the game because of social contacts you make.
Assuming you’re capable of thinking for yourself, you absolutely should avoid the common path most people walk.
Also, regarding the vigil: try again. fit overdrives to supplement your afterburner and learn how to fly in the crossfire of npc battleships in missions. it is doable, absolutely, but of course demands that you learn how to do it. it is extremely easy to be superior to most month old noob after just a week.
When you do what everyone does, you will get what everyone gets.
oh, and google allows to restrict timeframes for searches.
That’s not thinking for yourself. That’s is the same as to consider whatever most people think as BS, and that is egocentric, selfish and a thing to do. Thiking for yourself is to make your own decisions based on facts, and that decision may or may not be to follow the path that most people walk.
You’re not wrong, but. Most people believe they think for themselves, but don’t and then, in their wrong belief, mistake the laid out path as their own. When people say they go their own way, yet go the same way 99% of all people go, then it is extremely unlikely that they actually thought for themselves and they definitely do not go their own path.
it’s the same with newspapers, opinions and media in general. What is being written is what is being talked about. Most people read things and then mistake what is written as their own thoughts, which they aren’t, because they’re just copies of what was written.
And you are likely aware of the fact that the vast majority of people aren’t critical thinkers, or thinkers at all. They don’t even know how to form valid opinions, or make proper decisions. if they were, the world wouldn’t be in this mess. Not blaming the people with this, but decades of politics stupidifying children.
Whatever it is, that is being laid out for people to walk on, can be trusted to not be for thinking people.
I was part of the community that wrote those ancient guides and I still ninja salvage for almost all of the isk that I make (not on the char that im posting with). I make an extremely good amount of isk from a fairly in depth ransom process and get engagements every time I log on.
I say this not to brag but to boost your confidence that it is possible to turn ninja salvaging into a profitable eve career.
Come salvage in Osmon and if I see you around I’ll contact you (blow you up) and show you the ropes.
noobcorps out there who don’t teach you anything beyond the rails CCP provides for the game.
thing to do. Thiking for yourself is to make your own decisions based on facts, and that decision may or may not be to follow the path that most people walk.