Destroyer

Once I got my Thrasher I never went back to any of the frigates I have.

Under what circumstances would a frigate be better? My destroyer has A LOT more space for guns and greater shields, armor and structural hit points.

I get it that the frigates are smaller and faster and that helps against big ships like cruisers and battle ships but I think the destroyer would do well against them too.

Is it a matter of solo verses being in a fleet?

T1 frigates have 3 advantages - speed, signature and price. They are expendable and are generally used in situations like tackle where they aren’t expected to live very long.

Against a destroyer, a frigate will usually be able to control range and use it’s speed and small signature to mitigate incoming damage - it isn’t as uneven as it looks on paper.

When you move to more advanced frigates - pirate or T2, there are some very capable ships, The T2 are optimized for specific roles but pirate frigates like the Worm can be a lot of fun for PVE.

That’s not to say destroyers are bad - your Thrasher will make miners nervous - they are a popular gank ship! Again high damage, cheap and expendable. The more advanced hulls like tactical destroyers are a lot of fun to fly and relatively easy to train. Svipul used to be the most popular ship in the game, now it seems to be the Jackdaw.

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Most Frigates are specialized, you won’t find a Destroyer providing mining, e-war, or exploration bonuses. Also I like an Imicus for hauling, it’s faster and way less tempting for gankers than an Iteron Mark 5.

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“it depends”
what are you talking about? pvp? pve? large fleet? small gang?
"Under what circumstances would a frigate be better? " mmmmm… maybe an instawarp and immune to bubble ceptor can have some advantages? maybe a stealth bomber can do some things that a thrasher cannot do? maybe a logistic frig can be a better logi than a thrasher?

As @Do_Little said, Frigates have advantages - they have bonuses for a range of capabilities that make them more able in certain roles: The Inquisitors are better at supporting a small gang than a destroyer would be, the Executioner is better at tackle and controlling an opponent than a Coercer would be and so forth.

Destroyers are good at one thing: anti-frigate work where they can engage at range (if they can’t engage at range then things get a bit messy). So, in a fleet they are going to have the role of killing the tackle frigates that are trying to pin down the larger more valuable ships. T2 Destroyers have a different role, but that’s the specialised nature of T2 ships. T3Ds are capable generalists.

The problem a destroyer has against “big ships like cruisers” is that a Destroyer is a relatively big ship, slow ship as well . “Size” is represented by the Signature Radius, typically a Destroyer has twice the radius of a Frigate, and a Cruiser is twice the radius of a Destroyer. Additionally the speeds of the Cruiser and Destroyer are broadly similar making range control a lot harder.
Against a Battleship you’ve got to be very wary of the light drones they will almost inevitably throw against you. A Destroyer is more vulnerable to light drones because it’s relatively slow and large compared to a tackle frigate.

You are a capsuleer: the feeling of immortality is understandable. I like destroyers, but they are not invincible. For many things a frigate is the best tool.

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