Dev Blog: Call for CSM 13 Candidates!


(Xenuria) #4

Will station campaign ads see a return this election? If so will the same rules apply, can I use my previous ad?

(commander aze) #5

Idk if that’s a positive campaign message :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

(Xenuria) #6

Consistency and Honesty are both traits considered obscure and desirable in politicians. In that way I think it’s a great strategy.

(commander aze) #7

Was more remarking on using your characters image, it’s hauntingly disturbing. :slight_smile:

(Orca Platypus) #8

Who’s gonna be in the blob lobby, knowing all the things they should start speculating on 3 days before the dev blog appears?

No intrigue though, same as always, all will be blobbers, none will matter.

(commander aze) #9

I welcome you to read my campaign post Commander Aze

(Steve Ronuken) #10


If you want other people on the CSM, vote for them. Get other people to vote. It’s entirely possible for someone who’s independent to get onto the CSM.

(Lugia3) #11


(Orca Platypus) #12

Steve pls.

We all know exactly how it ended the last N times. We get a proper candidate, and it gets removed by a petty criminal CCP FullCon.

Then the rest is filled with blobby lobby and vegetable pretenders who’s just as much of a blobby lobby in truth… yes, I mean you.

Then some of them may sometimes be removed for speculating for more than they agreed with CCP FullCon upon, but that’s about the only reason that can get them removed. And the crook party cycle continues.

(Sgt Ocker) #13

Please, it is purely a popularity election.
There will never be a true “independent” on the CSM.
Anyone and everyone who gets voted onto the CSM has the backing of the blobs

The best thing that could happen to the CSM elections is they get cancelled.

(Crimson Draufgange) #14


(Steve Ronuken) #15

Nope, here you’ve verge into full on crazy conspiracy theory. I mean, I expected you to, so it’s nice to see I’m right, but you don’t need to make it so easy.

You know, you might be able to make a more convincing argument if you didn’t dip into insults. Of course, because you do, it’s obvious that you’re not going to think about replies. So I can respond in kind.

You appear to think there are people pulling my strings. Can you tell them to pay me? I don’t think they got that memo.

Every election is based on popularity. It’s how they work. Do you have something against democracy? :wink:

(Sgt Ocker) #16

I never said anyone was pulling your strings, only that you wouldn’t get elected without their vote.
Like real life, those who really control the CSM elections know if they didn’t have 1 or 2 “outsiders” elected, CCP (the governing body) would change how the elections are held. Or do the right thing and just give up on the idea of a “player representative group” which has never been representative of more than minorities within the player base.

Simply the fact 1 person with 100 alts can vote 100 times skews the chance of any realistic election results.

Sorry to say but you are nothing but a puppet in a pretend election process, whether you want to see it that way or not.

CSM elections are a farce

Why would they pay you? You serve the purpose they put you there for. You get to say you were elected by the player base because, whatever you like to tell yourself AND now you want payment for all those free votes…

Sorry but there is no “democracy” in CSM elections, the results are fixed by the mega groups and democracy should NEVER EVER be based on popularity.
Why do you think the world is so fuk’d up today - Politics is about what the elected member can get out of it, it has little to nothing to do with what they can do for the wider community.

NB; The election fixing for the CSM is quite transparent, if you know where to look…

(Mike Azariah) #17

I did not memorize the blog but I did note one odd thing . . . it used to be that ISD could not run, has that changed?


(Sebat Hadah) #19

I dont care. The last guy I voted for…rhiload. He stepped down. So I’m not voting anymore. Also…why even vote at all. In the 6 years ive played ive not noticed the csm actions at all. At least as far as I can tell.

(Matthias Ancaladron) #20

As unlikely as it is id ever win enough votes I’ll never apply until you get rid of the NDA. Csm should be free to discuss everything with players.

Ndas are for people with something to hide and don’t want transparency.

(CCP Guard) #21

Rhiload is still on the CSM so he didn’t step down.

If you follow what the CSM are talking about and doing, you’d see the actions. The CSM minutes and the discussion threads around them are a good place to start. Then it’s good to keep en eye on changes coming out in the months after. The recent Upwell updates and the March changes to Sov and Fatigue were heavily influenced by advice and input from the CSM to name recent examples.

(CCP Guard) #22

Look, no company in the world would let non-employees in on business information and give them more freedom than their own staff to talk publicly about it. It’s just not how the world works.

If the CSM wasn’t under NDA they wouldn’t hear about future stuff at all.

With the current system, we do get expert player feedback on features early and we can bounce ideas off them fairly easily and have quick access to a discussion when we need it. The CSM also has the same access to us for any questions or concerns they might have. We’re all better off for it.

(Qia Kare) #23

The NDA is an enabler. It allows CCP employees to disseminate information to more people than would be possible without it.

(Xenuria) #24

a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority

In terms of blocs influencing the vote, this is true but not because they outnumber everybody else. Rather the opposite is true, high sec and non bloc voters are several times the size of bloc voters. Steve is probably the only independent CSM that could get elected without ANY help from null blocs.

Trying to make him smell your farts isn’t going to win people over to your argument. The only election “fixing” is where null ballots are formed and all the people in highsec just sit on their hands. If the fix is in, it’s name is Apathy. It’s people getting a woe is me attitude and convincing themselves their votes won’t matter that allows null blocs to put people on with minimal difficulty. The fault is not within people like me or Steve, it’s not with CCP or with the system itself, it’s with people like you.

Every single eligible person who sits in jita or dodixie and concludes that voting is a waste of their time, they are the problem.