That’s… not actually true. In fact, a lot of the people buying PLEX and driving up demand… are the people selling PLEX. You use a combination of long-term sell orders and buy orders at just high enough a margin to set up the appearance of a high volume, trade to yourself in your own citadels, et voila, you offset the transaction fees with the increased price others end up paying from the high trade volume. Especially because the big PLEX sellers… they’re not competing with one another. They all want the price high.
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Still a better love story than twighlight. Thank you for that gem 
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Weird.
Yesterday I mention in starter Corp channel that I managed to finish an escalation DED 4/10 in a Destroyer (the best I could fly in my 5 days alpha alt, it was very difficult, took me 4+ hours, a lot of hit and run, anyway…), and it drop a 300 million loot, that I could not even place a sell order because of broker fees… and now they rise it, like double it…
I’m not just bragging (kind of 
), but made me wonder if that’s one of the reasons of those fees changes, to difficult trading for new alpha players from lucky drops.
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Maybe I’m missing the perspective of where you’re coming from on all this. The in game economy is in a bad place because of a surplus in supplies, goods, and isk. There is not enough sinks and destruction to counterbalance this, thus low profit margins for industrialists and poor risk vs reward for miners. The economy of PLEX is a simple supply vs demand because it’s made out of thin air with a conscious choice of a person wit ha credit card. A “PLEX Seller” is nothing more than someone that bought that PLEX at a previous point or someone that swiped a credit card. The shouldn’t be “annoyed” be an increase on PLEX cost because they are the ones profiting from it. The ones annoyed are the ones paying with their sub via plex, which is honestly a joke. The time required to gather the ISK worth of a month’s sub is pretty negligible. That indicates a pretty healthy influx of PLEX.
If CCP is removing large quantities of isk from eve, what is filling the void?
Forum rage and hyperbole
Higher prices.
I could see that
I was actually being sarcastic. If the amount of liquid ISK goes down, the value of each unit of it goes up. In effect, if CCP is successful in reducing the amount of ISK flowing through the game, we should see lower prices.
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There are only 2 skills that affect sales tax and broker fee (1 for each): one is rank 3 skill (accounting) and another is rank 2 (Broker Relations) for a grand total of 1,280,000 SP - less than a month training. And if you were a trader you should have learned these anyway.
Saying “OMG 4.5 MONTHS of training!!! (for all trade skills)” is just you fearmongering.
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we’ll see : ) its either gonna flourish or burn. sits back with marshmallows
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I would say lack of local scans are defending new eden from botters, and multi account players that can’t be bothered to actively engage the content of the game. I personally think any isk spent to keep local dead as a doorpost in null sec is money well spent
? Maybe I’m missing a mechanic here, but how does high trade volume increase any prices or more importantly gain you isk? Yes, giving the impression of how much PLEX is worth based on the averaged values is a thing, but people will pay whatever they are willing to spend or whatever the seller is willing to sell them at. If the cost ever got high enough that people weren’t willing to pay then it would come down as sellers start to compete. The artificial inflation of the cost is indeed likely a thing, but that works simply because demand is outweighing supply, even if artificially.
Some botters have already found ways around it as Usual. Like i said i live in Nul and im all for keeping local dead forever.
Not going to happen yet, anyway. There’s still way too much ISK flowing in through the staggering amount of bears in nullsec. Blackout or not, rats killed in various dotlan maps know no end, and the isk still flows like water. Supers need to be nerfed to the ground for ratting, and cynos need some sort of limitation so a determined attacker can take on ratting carriers and stand a chance if they have the numbers.
The amount of liquid isk is going to keep rising for a while yet. The faucets are just too big to be dealt with by these mediocre sinks.
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Since Hilmar Sold CCP he can NOW gamble as long as the new owners get 12 - 14% ROI they don’t care Helmar NOW has nothing to loose role on chaos he says
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Because we have never actually hit the point where PLEX prices are high enough that people weren’t willing to pay. And with the faucets and sinks as they are, I’m not really sure we can.
Quite possibly.
Hilmar didn’t sell EVE. The venture capitalist group that bought it about 10 years ago sold it.
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Funnily enough, the post below is useful
If CCP is removing large quantities of isk from eve, what is filling the void?
It’s an attempt to balance ISK velocity by tweaking the levers, effectively. But they’re using a real-life mechanic to do so - taxes from (I’m sorry but lore, lmao) NPCs. Not only is taxation an emotive issue IRL - people either want it or don’t, but it’s generally expected to pay for stuff in society and to improve it. This is a bloody game. They’re using ‘taxation’ as a term and a methodology to extract ISK from the economy and control inflation because the devs keep derping on designs and creating horrific ISK fountains everyone runs up and down with their pants on head telling them to get under control.
The consequence of that is that people who have the time and inclination to abuse can create 100s of accounts and abuse whatever is broken to the detriment of people with less time/money - and it exacerbates unsubs.
It’s a shoddy way to engage in economic balance, it doesn’t address the real issues, it annoys people selling PLEX and it forces people reliant on PLEX to stay subbed to grind more. It’s basically a cycle of doom, and it’s been going on for years.
Also, tbf I don’t actually think the sky will fall with this change. If anything the TTT guys can put their base broker fees up to 7.5%ish and still stay competitive with Jita prices, which would be a hilarious side-effect of trying to tackle the ‘1%’ who have so much wealth etc.
The fact that this is an overt attempt to try spark conflict ingame over competition for resources when no one wants to grind through these abominable structures and deal with broken mechanics might result in unified screeching as a counterpoint. And this is what you get when you try to force through rushed changes that you wrote on the back of a napkin. And yes, we will all laugh, regardless of the outcome - but this is decidedly not a player suggestion, and I highly doubt the CSM have been pushing for blanket changes that might depress subs long-term.
Where is concord when i get shot or ganked ? i atleast want a concord captain as personal bodyguard with this tax increase… i would pay even more for higher ranked concord protectors (fleet / mercs). Atleast that gives a feeling your isk is well spend…
Concord bots for hire, the bigger & longer you hire them the more you will pay… (and also maybe the AI if its rubbish AI)
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me personally i have 46 billion in market assets out now. it makes little difference. inflation is still inflation.
i never saw much point in day trading plex the margin is too slim for me most of the time. ( now long term investing is more my style anyway i don’t like babysitting orders.