Discussion Of The Implications Of Niarja's Invasion

[Teckos_Pech]

@Foggy_Bernstein

Uh oh.

Here we go. Teckos will now run amok.

Just link to your little thread and don’t go off on one of your economics rampages in this one.

I am not the one who made (bad) economic based arguments. Reporting revenues is both dumb and misleading in that all that ISK is not available to the TTT to do with as they please. Further, there is this implication that it is a zero sum game which it is not.

[Tiger_space_Thedark]

“there is alwasy a bigger fish” Qui-Gon Jinn

[Bruno_Solo]

If this is a permanent situation I agree with you, Amarr will flourish on it’s own. It’s already the 2nd best market hub ingame, now can compete with Jita. Experienced traders can make a nice profit from this, if act quickly. It will certainly make this dull game a bit more interesting, it will be fun to see what will come out of this.

[tutucox_Khamsi]

ok lets do it

[Daichi_Yamato]

@Katyusha_Lisa

Your blaming the mouse

For sitting in the open? Yes.

Would you blame the owl for doing exactly what it’s nature is?

[Merin_Ryskin]

@Katyusha_Lisa

What do you seriously think small hi sec groups can do against null sec alliances that make in an hour what most players make in a year?

So we acknowledge that highsec is an irrelevant minority of EVE, and all of the doom and gloom about “95% OF PLAYERS DONT WANT PVP MAKE HIGHSEC PVE OR EVE WILL DIE” is all nonsense?

[Commissar_Iron]

The kybernauts are usually the outnumbered. The Imperium threw their weight behind us in Niarja only to meddle with their current enemies.

The strong dominate the weak, and it shall continue to be the case.

[tutucox_Khamsi]

@Commissar_Iron

The Imperium

[Jonah_Gravenstein]

Obligatory G(rrrr)oons™

[chez1962]

To all highsec travelers and haulers that used NIARJA!!

[Meridan_Night]

@Lucas_Kell

It kinda feels like since the autopilot system knows it’s negative sec status (as indicated by the red triangle), it shouldn’t add it to your route if you’re set to “prefer safer”, since that’s clearly not safer.

It doesn’t route you through it if you have ‘‘prefer safer’’ set. Only sends me through Niarja if I have ‘‘prefer shorter’’ route chosen. So, autopilot settings work correctly.

[Dono_Tashu]

@Teckos_Pech

Yeah, and alot of ratting stopped. Do you know what happens when the money supply shrinks too much and the [real] economy keeps growing?

In other words: You think that null sec is more important.

[Foggy_Bernstein]

Some new forum dweeb hiding his profile and trying to put you down for your age is kind of ironic.

[Merin_Ryskin]

@Lucas_Kell

That doesn’t mean we should all aspire to play in massive coalitions and it’s a failure in game design if everyone has to.

But it also doesn’t mean that it’s a problem if/when the large coalitions smash a smaller group that is in their way.

Too bad, the game is sandbox with multiple playstyles, even ones you dislike.

That doesn’t mean those undesirable play styles should be actively supported and protected by CCP.

[Merin_Ryskin]

@Lucas_Kell

A playstyle you disagree with isn’t an “undesireable play style”.

It is when the reasons I disagree with it are legitimate.

The fact that so many players complain when CCP damages highsec playstyles shows that they are fairly desirable.

Hardly. Lots of players whining about something doesn’t make them right or desirable from a game design point of view. At most it means that CCP might desire their F2P cash shop purchases, but milking the cash cow doesn’t mean a lot.

And really, this whole argument is inherently contradictory. You’re asking us to believe that:

1. Risk-averse highsec PvE players are a significant group that anyone should care about.

and

2. These players are too weak and few in number to oppose any meaningful threat.

You can’t have it both ways, if there are really enough highsec players for them to deserve any consideration then they should be able to unify and fight off the threat to their space.

[Skip_Lorry]

@Meridan_Night

Only sends me through Niarja if I have ‘‘prefer shorter’’ route chosen.

Autopilot set to Safer. You sure you don’t have Niarja on your avoidance list?

[Skip_Lorry]

@Merin_Ryskin

But it also doesn’t mean that it’s a problem if/when the large coalitions smash a smaller group that is in their way.

How was Niarja in the way of the large 0.0 coalitions?

[Merin_Ryskin]

@Skip_Lorry

How was Niarja in the way of the large 0.0 coalitions

It existed, and they decided to smash it. Wrecking someone’s stuff just for the fun of wrecking it is a proud tradition in EVE.

[Skip_Lorry]

@Merin_Ryskin

It existed, and they decided to smash it.

Thank you for your retraction.

[DGSix_Kado]

@Skip_Lorry

Over an hour. Longer in a freighter. And that’s with clicking Jump on each gate. It’s even longer on autopilot. Have you ever piloted a freighter? They don’t warp fast.

Train into and purchase a JF or hire someone who moves freight for a living such as PushX. Why is this so difficult for people to wrap their heads around to avoid the 45 jumps or the system?