CCP has been catering to guys for 20 years. I don’t see how a survey asking women certain questions is necessarily catering to women. Games are made for everyone and anyone can play.
The survey doesn’t mean that we’ll see pink ships in space all of a sudden and if we can share the real world I don’t see why we couldn’t share a game.
I’m too new to have stories about harassment in EVE but I’m not short of them in other MMOs. I even had to make a second account in another online game to be free of the harassers, so the survey questions are pertinent and important.
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As a wise man once said
Perhaphs they are not into basement dwellers
So, Eve player (sporadically lately) since 2007, and if you didn’t know, I’m a woman.
I could very easily catalogue a list of things that have happened to me (both positive and negative) as a female player of Eve. Generally, the people I play with have been lovely and gone to bat for me when something uncomfortable or traumatic has happened. I suppose I should count myself lucky.
I think there’s no question everyone deserves to play free from serious and constant harassment. Along this line, women are more often treated differently than men who play Eve Online. The slew of anecdotal evidence shows this to be the case. I am glad CCP is finally asking these questions to women. It’s a way of promoting substantive equality. Women and men do require different things to be able to have equality due to the embedding structural nature of discrimination and equal opportunities, and this is perfectly fine (although I know for sure there are some who will think this is ABSOLUTELY NOT FINE, and good for you).
Just because CCP is choosing to focus on diversity doesn’t mean they are ignoring other people who might not fit their target group at the moment. (Why isn’t there a men’s history month? comes to mind as an often thrown around example).
Personally, if something good comes of this and women feel safer and heard in Eve, and complaints of harassment and abuse are taken seriously, cool. However, much like some of the other women here, I remain mildly pessimistic.
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This is a goddamn trainwreck 
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I seriously started smelling something fishy (absolutely NO pun intended, I’m not a native English speaker, this is the best way I can express the idea) when reading the survey, and clearly someone is testing the waters at CCP or in the best case the people they hired to make that survey have an ideological penchant that CCP didn’t know.
I have not seen a single instance where all that diversity talk didn’t end up in catastrophe and everything going to ■■■■, and I say that as an actual black guy, I have not been able to be excited for a movie in decades because most of them are more focused on marketing through outrage or diversity rather than think about an actually good scenario.
Dunno who is pushing for that thing at CCP or whatever that survey is hinting, but if you want a clear example of where it will end up, you just have to look at the last Star Wars trilogy… they introduced a “better image for females” and we ended up with the most mediocre material ever in the Star Wars Universe.
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There are like 3 conversations going on
Some people won’t debate/acknowledge the other side exists. The joy of internet forums.
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I’m not even sure what that’s supposed to mean if I’m honest.
So I just took the survey even though I hate those things ( I’m blaming it on all of you! lol ) and I really don’t see what all the hubbub is about.
The questions are reasonable and very respectful, touching on different issues affecting women online and in MMORPG if you’rea woman who plays EVE, just like I imagined it would.
Someone having a hissy-fit for that really has issues with their own gender, either a complex of inferiority or superiority but they better come to terms with the fact that women also enjoy video games.
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Which is irrational as you are annonymous on the internet, unless you dumb enough to give complete strangers on the internet your personal details.
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My Girlfriend told me she was a gamer, She only plays Wow 
34. Does the knowledge that another player is not of your gender affect the way you interact with that player ?
34a. Do you think females interact with other females the same way as males interact with other males ?
34b. Would you prefer to play on a separate server for a specific gender ?
Why is being whatever you want a bad thing?..like what? Isn’t that the goal of everyone? To be what you want to be? So long as it doesn’t hurt or go out of it’s way to annoy/piss off other people how is that NOT a good thing?
If all of us had the ability to shapeshift that’d be pretty awesome. Who wouldn’t want to try out different bodies and experiences?
Honestly to rally against the idea of people wanting to be what they want is downright evil and awful and directly against freedom.
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We know that, my wife and granddaughter play games too.
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Water is wet.
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Lmao, I’d love to be in the CCP boardroom when 5k males suddenly identify as female
There’s absolutely nothing they could do about it either.
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This person gets (part of) the joke
You two having a hissy-fit about the survey?
If you’re going to quote, please try to understand what you quote and don’t leave out the rest.
Never addressed the many logical points we have made anyways. 
In fact, it’s the first time you actually quoted me so far. Thanks! While I got your attention.
People don’t like inconvenient talking points, so they don’t reply to them.
Perhaps we should all remember there is a difference between harassment such as RL harm vs calling someone noob/ “get rekt XD” 
???