When you mention people than other things, are you referring towards tactics within the game play itself?
The last person I can think of that I watched do this was SmittyStone who is a popular Tarkov streamer. He was constantly lost in the menus. If I recall correctly, CCP paid him specifically to run through the npe since they changed some of it.
I’m sure he’d have done better if he wasn’t on stream, since there’s pressure to keep your audience entertained. But it was kind of like watching a trainwreck in slow motion.
I agree with you that popular streamers would be a decent way to advertise the game. But CCP really needs to work on the hiccups in their game, and include some content that is more appealing to the masses. EVE is not a very viscerally engaging game.
No, it’s a reference to the gameplay mechanics and the environment itself.
So for the environment: everything in eve that you engage with, is a thing. There aren’t any people visible, even down to the player’s avatar, which is a thing, rather than a person. While we have an actual human character, there’s no engagement with it at all in the game.
Even when you engage with mission agents, the agent doesn’t talk to you. It’s a wall of text. It’s a bit better now that there’s at least a character model, but it still has a long way to go before it satisfies the desire.
Socially, as an mmo, this is it’s strongest point, but it’s still lacking, since onboarding players into active corporations is a difficult challenge. And some of the few players that did have social interaction for new players, within the rookie corps, are now filled with sp spam offers, which have killed a massive amount of the social interaction in those channels.
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Seagull was never CEO, her title was Executive Producer. Hilmar has been CEO of ccp for a very long time - including when Seagull was around.
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We all play in a sandbox where we don’t necessarily need to change anything other than having new areas of the sandbox to explore. Perhaps Jove Space is the perfect place to explore a more mmo style of gameplay as it is currently cut off?
CCP doesn’t need to open up Jove space for that. From a gameplay perspective, we’ve got nearly untouched planets, station interiors, ship interiors, and a whole host of other in space assets. Those locations can be for the fps / third person shooter player to explore in a more traditional way and the domain of flying around in space can be the environment for EVE Online.
CCP London has been working on a shooter that some have speculated will have more mmo features in it than dust did. So something similar destiny or warframe with probable pvp gameplay.
Personally, I think they should aim for full integration, which will actually drive EVE subs if the shooter gameplay is popular. However, I understand there can be technical constraints, which is why I offered a bit of a compromise in another suggestion that was created a bit over a year ago: Derelict First / Third Person Exploration which details a potential mission type that loads a warframe style mission from activity that happens within EVE. Obviously you don’t want either game to be wholly dependent on the other, but ideally there should be enough cross platform activity that it encourages interaction.
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The proposal you had brought forward would go through a CSM process first though as changing to those extreme such as hopping out of our Capsule after landing on a planet to engage in FPS or even still operating as one lane based craft on the surface.
Are you running for CSM?
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Nah, it’s way too much work for an unpaid position. I don’t think there’s too much to be concerned about in that department though, since the shooter is already something CCP has been working on.
I expect it will be a stand alone product first, and they’ll slowly work in things that can be cross platform, just like they did that dust’s orbital bombardment.
This is exactly the reason why I replied to the other thread mentioning that the survey is something that is kept private.
That Nah response sounds like you had given in to your complaints or those points you brought forth.
Statistically by polling demographics between 40 to 45% of online players of MMOs across the board are female. The types of games with appeal more to females will involve character design and house building such as; The Sims and Black Desert. Puzzle and gambling are another category dominated by female game players. It is difficult to say how many people are actually female in games, since most know better than expose themselves to the male players, who then treat them as a novelty, or less than perfect.
I am not sure why anyone would need to know this information. Other than to sell product to a demographic, it really shouldn’t matter. My best friend told me something a long time ago about the online community.
Everyone you meet online is actually the same person. His name is Bob, he is 35 years old, a virgin, living in his parent’s basement. He acquires Star Wars, Star Trek, and My Little Pony collectibles. Bob plays all the MMOs at once and pretends to be all those other people.
Have a great day Bob!
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The individual answers of such a survey can and should be kept private, or better: anonymious, and only statistically summarized.
The survey itself should be openly discussed, if only for pointing out flaws in the design. A secret survey is bascially worthless, since you can simply use it to back up any claim you want to make by all sorts of manipulation. If you just want to push an agenda you already have set up in your mind and just need fabricated “proof” to make it look to the masses as if you are acting on a solid data basis, go ahead with secret surveys.
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Yup, and this is why it’s silly for CCP to try to purposefully market to female players for EVE. If they like the game, they’ll like it for what it is, not something specifically made for them.
And if CCP wants to market specifically to female players, they need to change the gameplay to reflect those talking points you mentioned in your post.
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CCP would have topic experts who submit a summary that turns into such questions asked I would think.
Maybe they don’t trust the players opinion of the masses and the feedback they are looking for is currently only derived from surveys.
/edit back and wishing to add something else to the thread reguarding surveys
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It seems like a toxic survey. I wonder if all surveys are
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But you’re ok with throwing ageism around?
I’m 64, I guess I shouldn’t be playing still according to you.
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the career missions are fine - if they would just undelete the explanations so you know again what it is all about
That is definitely a survey loaded with bias. Perhaps some clearer heads at ccp should investigate how and by who this type of survey is allowed to be conducted on its customer base.
And I might add:
32. To what extent do you believe EVE Online has focused its development resources on elements that appeal to you in the game ?
Answer: none in particular for the past 3 years, as I don’t do the FW thing and don’t fly Lancers. The economy isn’t fixed at all, inflation is ridiculously high, ship building has become a terrible mess, and resource distribution is a joke that makes no one laugh. In the light of the previous questions, CCP have bigger fish to fry for their already paying customers, without adding more unhappy people.
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Not mobile game or not, but ‘pausing’ is a good point. My wife plays WoW a lot but she almost exclusively plays pet battles as those are round-based and nothing happens until you press a button
She could become an incredibly rich PI/Industrial/Market tycoon this way in EVE. Just stay docked, manipulate orders / extractors / jobs whenever you have time or are in the mood and enjoy great success. Nothing will ever happen unless she pushes a button.
Use the money to pay people to blow up stuff, be a space empress.
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She’d have to want to actually engage in space spreadsheets for that to happen. What’s more likely? That she’d want to move tiles around in a terrible ui and do a bunch of math? Or play with cute pets in wow?
IMO, this is the fundamental disconnect.
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Not exactly true. Other people will PVP her on the market and she can’t do anything against it. That’s quite upsetting for this type of player.