Drifter Rats

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Is there a ship capable of handling a fleet of these battleships solo? It seems I’m going to have to learn how to deal with them or move back to High because these damn things are everywhere. I can fly a Vindicator or a Kronos, but somehow I don’t think I’ll be able to one-shot these like I can the Diamond Rats of High Sec. They’re on gates, in anomalies, and who knows where else. Assuming I remain in null, I’m going to need a really tough ship. Do I need a Dread for this? Well… assuming I had a place to park one and several months to get one built (and the 20b ISK)… seriously… how the hell do you all make money down here? I mined an anomaly last night in a Coveter and made 8 million an hour thanks to not having compression (I’m still waiting on the proper ships- can’t just go to Jita anymore).

I’ve said it before- Null sucks. I’ve been here 2 weeks and I hate logging in.

I’m 2 months away from a really great Sarathiel fit- again- if I can find a parking space and decide it’s worth the damn money. I can even fly and fit a Rorqual, but it’s the same damn problem. I can’t even get an Orca down here because I would just be feeding it to the damn Drifters.

I can make way more money in High Sec since I can pick the correct ship for the task at hand with no fear of losing them. Where is the 500,000,000 per hour I was promised? 8 mil / hour? ■■■■■■■ hell. I will NOT Omega multiple accounts for Null.

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They only attack you if you attack them.

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I dont remember why you moved out there….but it must have been for a good reason.

Just move back and be done with it. I lived there for a month and it was complete boredom the entire time. Ill never go back unless its for a very good reason.

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Then it wasn’t drifters that attacked my mining barge with 30 drones on warp-in to an anomaly? Okay… I still need a ship big enough to deal with those battleships. All I have is a Proteus.

I warped out as fast as the game would let me.

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I not sure why I did it. I hate Null Sec.

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You must have previously attacked them. They remember you, and not fondly.

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I haven’t fired a single shot. Not one… since coming to null.

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Then HS is the way my man.

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Unless you’re blinging it out dreads dont need to cost 20b. even faction dreads should be less than half that with some bling.

I’m not sure where in null you’re at because I don’t remember drifters being everywhere. Null rats can be a bit rough for miners. Porpoise and orca can kill them pretty easily, rorqual even easier. A marauder should easily take care of them.

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The man likes to roll in style… No cheap crap.

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As for the isk waterfall, it’s all about the alts. The easiest isk in the game is smartbomb ratting rock havens. You can do it with as few as 3 omega accounts but to max out the profits you need 7. 1 anchor, 6 bombers.

30 rock havens, if your system has 4, should get you just over 1b and take around an hour or slightly over. That is not including if you drop mtu’s and grab all the loots.

If you bomb for the entire ess cycle you should gain around 3b and your ess should be around 600-700m

When Tessa gets online I’ll direct him here to explain it better. I merely watched him do it through discord stream. I don’t know the fits he used but I know he used 1 porpoise as the anchor and 6 praxis bombers. When he came out of null he had 30 something bill

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$60 for 3 Omega, plus skill training for all 3 alts, plus the price of all the ships and ammo and fits, just to make 1b isk?

You do realize that I can pay $20 and immediately get 3b ISK right? For the price of 3 Omega accounts, I can get 9B ISK. I wouldn’t have to worry about skill training on 3 accounts.

That’s not good math. The set up alone would take a long time. You’re right… It’s time to go back to High Sec.

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Sure, if you were to only do it for one hour and then stop forever.

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It’s still the cost of 3 Omegas.

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3 omegas is around 7.5b isk and it only takes 11 days of training, without implants or skill injectors. Praxis was around 600m each. I didn’t save the fits. That will have to wait until Tessa is on, he’s been busy lately getting his catamaran ready for the trip he and his wife are taking, so hasnt been on a lot.

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Bomber Praxis fit is as follows. 580m isk each (market variation)

High Slots: 7 t2 smartbombs to match the rats in your area

Mid Slots: 7 t2 cap rechargers

Low Slots: 1 true sansha large armor rep, 2 t2 cap power relay, 1 reactive armor hardener, 2 primary rat dmg t2 armor hardeners, 1 secondary rat dmg t2 armor hardener

Rigs: 2 large cap control circuit 2, 1 large cap control circuit 1

Should end up 26% cap left with everything on, 87% primary resist, 78% secondary. With reactive you’ll be over 90% on both.

Anchor ship he uses is a porpoise. Fit doesnt matter but you need the fleet formations skill level 5 for relative formation. Then you just have to get positioning right. The anchor ship (your main) warps to 0 on a rock haven, bombers will be around 10km and should drop out of warp right in front of the middle of the non functioning gate in the middle of the rock haven.

Praxis should be in formation already set before you warp to the haven so that they will always warp to the same position based on your anchor ship.

The praxis ships should be landing just in front of the gate and spaced around 4km away from each other with the rough shape of an 8 sided dice if you are using the 7 characters total for max profits.

If you are only using 3, 1 will be anchor, 2 praxis should land in right in front of gate, 1 above and 1 below gate horizon with a rough distance of 4km between. For using 3 though, your anchor ship does matter and isnt just there to drop mtu’s. You’ll want something that can alpha a battleship rat that gets out of bomb range.

I’m on the phone for unrelated stuff and he’s just explaining it quickly as I type. If any of that doesnt make sense you’ll have to wait for Tessa. Personally, I can verify it works well because we were on discord and i had to teach him how to stream it and he showed me. He’d spend about 6 hours a day doing it unless a hostile fleet came through. Was plexing an account every day and sending isk to my group for projects.

Edit to include once you relative warp to the rock haven, you go through your bombers and run your fingers over f1 through f7 and watch everything except your team die.

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Oh, I guess you can use more than 7 characters but it becomes tedius and if you dont have positioning right you’ll end up bombing your own team to death. So 6 bombers in that formation is the sweet spot.

You’ll also have to pay attention to the rats as they warp in because once in a while a rat dread will warp in and if you’re not off grid in less than 30 seconds you will start losing ships really fast.

You’ll want your own dread to take care of it, and sometimes you’ll get a faction rat alongside the dread. Those are where the isk really comes in. high grade implant bpc’s and faction modules drop like candy.

I guess i also need to add that according to Tessa, if you start the smartbombing and anyone in the same alliance knows about it they will log alts in enemy fleets to try to hot drop you. That’s one reason he left null. He had been feeding some industry people cheap ice and ore but then quit mining completely and went to smartbombing and magically, out of nowhere, an enemy hotdropper fleet was popping in and out of the system he was in while blues all around completely ignored them and wouldnt report them to intel. Suspicion is the industry people he was feeding and then stopped got upset and logged their counterpart red characters. This happened for a couple weeks before some other situations from within that corp made him want to leave.

Thats from within sigma grindset alliance, a blue neighbor to the swarm.

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I appreciate the details, but that’s a lot of setup and then I’m locked down into committing to that one activity every time I log in to make enough to pay off each account and and make enough to be worth it. That’s not what I want to do in Eve. With my limit play time, that’s all I’d be doing.

So, mining is zero profit, eh? Figures.

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Now with mining, I’m a rank 5 expert!

It’s also all about alts. It isnt zero profit, but the more alts you use to mine the more isk you’ll make. Obviously!

The trick is having people ready to buy it every day for a price you’re ok with. I typically run 4 miners and 1 booster which is my main. takes a lot longer than his smartbombing though.

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I won’t even run 4 characters in High Sec. I run 2. I didn’t know I’d need all those characters just to run Null. I guess this game went multiboxing for real.

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