So talking about 5 real pilots. Again: doing it that way might be easier than now (which is intentional, to remove 100% death rooms from the frig-choice), but you also had to share the profits among 5 people, also making it less lucrative than now. Sounds balanced to me.
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With 5 pilots you can do 3 t2 logis + 2 damage dealers. What wave can kill you with such a setup? Also very balanced.
So where is the problem? It is intentional that no wave can kill you (like no wave can kill you in a blinged cruiser) if you bring that much logi. You will also have pretty crappy runtimes if you have only 2 damagedealers out of 5 ships, lowering the profits for all of them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GK7D5mmT0k âThis Tutorial shows how to use a Pulse & Beam Retribution in T5/T6 Electrical Abyssals. They can be cleared very quickly (often under 8 minutes).â This setup is with 2 damage dealers. Now add another 2 logis and you are totally safe.
which is intentional if you use 5 ships. Like you are âtotally safeâ using a single blinged cruiser.
Where is the problem if it requires 5 omega pilots to do so? I mean you do realize that people make comparable amounts of money with 5-pilot crews in WHs for example? It isnât like we would create some magical and yet unseen low effort moneyprinter here that has to be prevented at all costs. Beginner groups will still fail from time to time, messups of a single ship can still kill your entire crew⌠but it would make frig-running a lot more attractive because not only max-pr0s can do it. Right now, not even 10% of the HighTier runs are done in Frigs⌠itâs a shame basically. Mostly because it is unattractive to do so.
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Sure all for the beginner groups 
Not for you and your corpmates.
It seems we have totally different opinions. There is no point to discuss this topic any further. Have a nice evening anyway.
Give up, this isnât for you. Let the real pilots do the job. Weâve been doing this for years, so if you want your piece of the pie, learn to fly or, like I said, step aside.
Wow that are words⌠What are you doing? Can you tell me? Are you Solo Gila Bling Bling Pilot? Show me that you do as an ârealâ Pilot master Abyss T6 with two Jackdaws in 100 Runs and die not one time.
If you can do this i will be quiet. If you cant - you see its not balanced - because a Gila Pilot can do this without problemsâŚ
Can it be that the most players here who are against a try to Balance Abyss for all Shipclasses are Gila Blingers and are scared that theyre Money Machine going to be nerfed if CCP take a hand on it in general? If you are such âprosâ than its only positiv if the Abyss gets balanced - than its more easier for you to make Money so why complainig then? What do you loose?
If CCP balance Abyss there are more Players into this kind of Content. CCP would earn more Money if there are more Multiboxers who are avaible to do Abyss and everyone who is doing as a Team with friends would also pay Money for the game or will stay in eve much longer because this Content makes fun and make the pool of Content larger.
Abyss is profitable because itâs difficult. It rewards efficiency, precision, and risk management. If every carebear could farm it safely without losses, then rewards would crash and the activity would be worthless. Thatâs literally how EVE works.
If you want safe, go mining.
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I see your point 100% but than nerf Solo Abyss. If you go Solo Abyss there is 100% Chance to survive. If you fit your Crusier well enough you will fly save and without losses. You will print ISK as much you want but dont loose anything.
So i dont see the Point why it shouldnt be the same for Duos and Trios.
So now we finaly come to the same Point. It is unbalanced and should be balanced from CCP. If Duos and Trios have to die to get the âhigh risk - high rewardâ (as you say) - Gilaâs should die too. But thats not hapen now. Gilas get â0 risk - high rewardâ (if all Pilotes have the same Skill in Abyss).
