Encounter Surveillance System projected to be a "Permanent thing"

The rest of the game lost players during the years CCP shoved everything up the nullseccers collective asses.

The only players nullsec is losing, ever since the black-out, is those they don’t give a ■■■■ about anymore. That’s, according to the changes during these last months since black-out, are the carebears, the afk players and the farmers.

No one who matters gives a single flying ■■■■ about those. This includes CCP, all the leaders of the respective nullsec entities and all the player-types CCP now cares about.

CCP’s changes to the game over the last years, before black-out, negatively influenced literally the whole game. If you don’t believe it, just look at what they’re doing now, why the economy needs to be moved into a better direction and why everyone pretty much agreed that the game was horribly stagnating.

Will nullsec lose even more players? Yes.
Will nullsec lose players who matter? No.

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Nope.

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you are right in many points.
but in matter question I disagree.
does a player matter? sure, even if he does not like your or my play style. even if he hates pvp
will 0.0 lose players, that matter? sure. even carebears matter in 0.0 (belive it or not), because they generate content. no carebares to lazy (aka semiafk farming) to watch intel means no free killmails…
will the carebares leaving 0.0 be mad about leaving 0.0? no, the will just find another nice place in new eden do get isk…there are enough options available
will CCP feel it? I think not. blackout was different. no one will leave no the game because auf the ESS change.
will CCP succeed with generating more content for pvpler in 0.0? I would bet that not. (I would bet isk on this, but I have no idea how to measure success or not. be my guest and help me out on agreeable terms and I bet a billion isk)
will 0.0 have less residents after the change? yes

but, of course ,all I say could be totally wrong, because there is still no dev blog. just a dev dropping a bomb in an interview. not sure what he or ccp was thinking when he was leaking this info without any details…

Problem is that local residens dont know that, thus they have to assume that he is always not afk.

Ever heard about Olmeca Gold who was camping a certain region for a year?

And who matters? Like 5-10 dudes who are leaders of big alliances, the rest of player base can simply delete the game?

Are you taking this personally?
You shouldn’t, otherwise you can’t actually function in society,
because it is like this everywhere, for almost everyone.

The only ones who matter are the devs and those who lead the thousands.
There wouldn’t be any alliances, if these people weren’t willing to be led.

You, I, and them don’t matter at all. We’re replacable and CCP, over the years, provided us enough evidence in the form of devblogs that they carefully watch out for their words and make sure that they don’t inform us too well about what they’re doing. In case of CrimeWatch 2.0, as an example, they just outright lied to people knowing well that there will be those who show sympathy for what they’re doing.

In the end, we can’t even guarantee that the members of the CSM really bring up what we wish them to bring up. There simply is none. The NDA protects CCP’s interest, which extends to the CSM. We can not ever be sure that we get to know what they’re actually talking about.

Yes. You could delete the game and never come back and it wouldn’t matter, as long as long as you can be replaced. That’s how this always worked. Right now, starting with the black-out, they’re slowly replacing the population again. They’ve spent the years since 2013 with gathering whales, farmers and carebears and they’ve spent the last months getting rid of them again.

vOv

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One can only wonder how do you function in a society if you think that your opponent automaticly takes everything personally.

Funny thing: alliances would neither exist if there wouldn´t be anyone to lead. Without players Mittens and Piggleman would have to go for a good old fist fight. I agree with what you wrote but there is one thing: good luck for EVE to exist without players. I dont matter, you dont matter, however thousands matter because they have an impact on such relatevily small game. Does CCP have to take rather radical actions in order to achieve their goal quicker than 10 years? Sure. Does CCP have to take a good dump on overall balance between factions of players? No.

I feel you are missing the point of who changes are intended to benefit and how, though you did hit on it on passing.

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More kills in null

you hope, I hope
but tbh I fear this idea will reduce the amount of kills…

I simply dont believe that new ESS will not become yet another horror from CCP

Really, I played null with various groups under another character for a long time. What drove me out of null when I made this one had nothing to do with CCP, we adapt and overcome there. What got me out of null was player culture there. Null attracts two general kinds of players in my experience. First, the lazy farmer (quitting in droves with super/carrier/rorq/mining nerfs), and the die hard pvp addict who will undock for anything and hunt it without mercy. Null works for them right now. Basically though, the alliances running with you will show up for fleets is what ruined it for me. You have a war, yes i get fleets, but daily drunkfest fleets are not my thing. This change will certainly buff one of those groups while hurting the other. In that way it works as intended.

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That’s a what, not a who.

Oh, guess this new ESS thingy will provide local residents with more kills of roaming gangs and cloaky campers, right?

Not really, because the ones who remain will the ones who deserve to be there.

Nope. Farmer trash does not matter, ever. They create nothing of value, and they make every possible effort to keep it that way. CCP may miss their subscription fees in their annual financial report but the game itself will not.

What’s your point? Even if all of the farmer trash ragequits there will still be plenty of people playing the game and plenty of people to lead. Remember, not everyone is a helpless perma-victim like you.

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OK, Boomer.

Whoosh

Christ allmighty, how mentally deranged are you?

If you would actually read my post you would see that i wrote

which means that i literally excluded ALL players from this list except alliance leaders in order to establish who are those “who matter”. And what do you see? That i removed only krabs and only krabs.

You remind me about Olmeca: if you force into him a ton of weed and 2000 liters of alcohol and will somehow revive him and ask “mate, what date is it today?”, he will answer “supers in delve”. If you see only what you want to see - it´s beyond my capabilities to somehow make you understand certain things.

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No, I see that your post is utter nonsense. You’ve removed all players but alliance leaders when that’s a fundamentally stupid thing to do. There is no scenario here where everyone but the alliance leaders will quit EVE. The only “people” at risk of quitting are the farmer trash and their removal is not a loss.

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Once again:

It was a question… not a realistic scenario… good god.

First of all: i love how you dont even see krabs as people. Are they subhumans or what?
Second: even pvp eventually died out during blackout, but it kinda ruins your narrative, so i guess we will just ignore that.