Equinox in Focus: Reinvigorating Nullsec

Totally fine! And we do want to reiterate that this isn’t a “one and done” patch - we’re absolutely aware of the role that projection plays in New Eden and have some plans to address it based on how things change (or don’t) in Equinox.

The latter. Though Skyhooks will provide new resources which will fuel new upgrades, and are also tradeable.

The NPCs will have (generally) the same level of strength as the NPCs which appear at belts/mining anomalies. Diamond rats, as Hyperionus Iapetorii mentions, aren’t standard spawns - they have a very deliberate and predictable way they appear.

From the article linked in the original post:

Is CCP concerned with the potential impact the reintroduction of the isogen resource to nullsec will have on industrial alliances primarily operating in lowsec and wormhole space? Currently, by certain minerals being limited to specific security bands, the difficulty of operating in these locations have helped drive the value of the resources found there.

The mineral market is extremely sensitive to changes like these. With just the simple addition of adding more Ytirium ores to Empire/Nullsec Border Rare Asteroid anomalies, the value of ore sites within lowsec and wormhole space dropped by 15-25% without a large influx of extra supply. If these ores are brought back to null security space in an even more significant capacity, it could completely destroy the value of these ore sites and render industrial content in these areas non-viable for gameplay–an area of space which is more suited to solo, small, and medium sized corporations.

There is much talk about how the Equinox changes will enhance raiding and conflict drivers for more offensive oriented groups, but outside of the benefits to major established sov holding alliances, what sort of impact will Equinox have for smaller, independent groups who are establishing their industrial base?

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Where does it say isogen

On the stream

The fate of smaller, independent groups are never a concern. They have no voice, they have no representation and they are not considered important. Which is in my eyes a major mistake, because being part of a small or medium group building your own little sand castle with a tight-knit group of comrades over many many months and years, rewarding dedication and professionalism, is the greatest experience EVE has to offer and greatly helps with player rentention.

That being said: Having Gneiss and Omber drop noticably in value would indeed be a harsh hit for WH industry. There are ways to prevent that, not even difficult ways, but it is something the Devs should definitely consider when bringing back Isogen to Null.

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I would counterargument that without the possibility to get all the basic minerals in null - smaller Indy nullsec groups cannot even properly manufacture anything. And cannot be self-sufficient. Not unless you have a vast logistics network to import stuff from highsec.
Just look how much trit you need to import to build anything.

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A lot to cover!

Regarding your question on Isogen - the idea was always to reintroduce Isogen through dynamic resource distribution. We now have a system with more levers to better control the overall mineral ecosystem, even with dynamic resources.

Materials from low-sec/pochven/wormholes will still be quite valuable and worthy of players time, as it will come with no opportunity cost. A non-insignificant amount of Isogen, in particular, was being supplied by mineral stockpiles - when you mentioned the A0 levels of isogen affecting pricing that much, some of those stockpiles were in play. So to your point, we do expect Isogen prices to fall as more supply is introduced, and there will be some volatility as the markets find equilibrium points, but those who live in those areas should still find their time spent valuable.

There is much talk about how the Equinox changes will enhance raiding and conflict drivers for more offensive oriented groups, but outside of the benefits to major established sov holding alliances, what sort of impact will Equinox have for smaller, independent groups who are establishing their industrial base?

New resources and new conflicts have historically always been good for those who predicate their gameplay around building and utilizing those resources.

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I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out that this iteration of the CSM has the least nullsec representation of a CSM in a decade.

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@CCP_Swift That is a good thing, and while I agree that I have sensed a change in the discussions (for what is available to the public), it doesn’t change the outcome much (yet) because most mechanics that seriously hurt the smaller groups and benefit exclusively the large(st) ones are still in place. Maybe that changes over time, it would do EVE good.

Seriously, I love this game and over the last years my main job was to spread this love by recruiting and training new players in the hope that they would stay… But many didn’t and from what they have told me the main reason was sheer frustration about most mechanics in this game working in favor of larger blobs. I don’t want to derail the topic, I really could write for hours on this, but if I could just remind you that WH space is the last remaining region for those who actuallly FLED all this powercreep, nearly instant powerprojection and meaningless geography of K-space. It is valuable. Be careful when implementing changes that would affect its health.

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Thank you for taking the time to answer Swift, I know many of these questions are tangential to an update focused on reinvigorating null security space, but they are of critical importance to someone who has built a community around acquiring rare and difficult to acquire resources.

Regarding your question on Isogen - the idea was always to reintroduce Isogen through dynamic resource distribution. We now have a system with more levers to better control the overall mineral ecosystem, even with dynamic resources.

At the risk of reading into this too much, would this suggest there is a plan by CCP to reintroduce other minerals such as Nocxium into wormholes and Zydrine/Megacyte into lowsec as well? Also, currently R8-R64 moon ore is held in monopoly by nullsec alliances which have expanded into lowsec as well as only the largest groups have the resources to defend the infrastructure used for mining them, locking out smaller and even medium sized groups from a very valuable strategic resource that would enable their growth and expansion. Are there any plans to introduce this resource in limited quantities elsewhere, such as j-space, high security space, and Pochven?

Materials from low-sec/pochven/wormholes will still be quite valuable and worthy of players time, as it will come with no opportunity cost. A non-insignificant amount of Isogen, in particular, was being supplied by mineral stockpiles - when you mentioned the A0 levels of isogen affecting pricing that much, some of those stockpiles were in play. So to your point, we do expect Isogen prices to fall as more supply is introduced, and there will be some volatility as the markets find equilibrium points, but those who live in those areas should still find their time spent valuable.

Currently judging by the monthly economic reports released in the last year or so (For example, Monthly Economic Report - April 2024 | EVE Online), it appears that despite the high value of ore found in lowsec and wormhole space, the total volume mined is exceptionally low compared to nullsec and highsec. While the reasons for this are debatable, it appears clear that even at high values, players do not find mining in these security bands to be worth the time or effort. If there is a lack of mining in these security bands currently, is CCP concerned a price drop on resources specific to them would further reduce the industrial activity in these zones? Is there a target amount of activity CCP would like to see in places typically regarded as “dangerous” space?

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I know it’s subject to change, but is the current idea is the new hub dies - all skyhooks in the system will die with it?
Or they remain ‘inactive’ till owners of hub and skyhook match? So I guess you might need to grind the skyhooks after you kill the hub.

Just curious if you guys are guestimating the % of planets that will have skyhooks in nullsec?

CCPlease update the description of the POS Siphon. Players who don’t read deeply enough are being misled, buying these at significant markups, with some expectation that they still work, or MIGHT WORK in the future.

Small Mobile Siphon Unit
A small personal deployable that steals material from player owned structures (POS).

The description of the POS moon miner was updated, when it stopped working:

Moon Harvesting Array
This structure has been automatically disabled by CONCORD to make way for newer replacement technology.

I don’t see a reason to expect, and no suggestion I’ve read so far, that Skyhooks will explode if the Sov Hub explodes. Skyhooks provide new resources: those new resources can simply sit unused, if the Sov Hub is gone. Meanwhile, even without a Sov Hub, a Skyhook should continue to function as a hub for Planetary Industry on that planet. Players can negotiate among themselves, if the Skyhook owner must match the Sov Hub owner.

Do POS’s stop working when or if the iHub is destroyed currently?

If not, why would a skyhook when its an upgrade to the POS, and will be presumably used still before the new iHub is in place

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New HUB cant die.

can i believe an day CCP going nerf how ess grid Working (outside)
Lot of guy’s when they see someone they just burn out ess grid and wait 15 minutes then filaments ESS normaly here for create “Fight” right ?
So let us warp at different Range on ess and warp to our friend too …
Thanks if i can have any answer if anything is on working on that

I don’t say it will, but was more of a question of what will happen to them? Since Skyhooks will be tied in to new iHUBs.

Why?
I believe the current idea is you can still entosis them.