Ya I get it. I’m not a captcha minigame tester. I don’t habitually afk or auto-bot. I’m just a player wanting to have fun and not feel my time is devalued by scumbags.
PS: You sound like a jackass.
Shitty design is shitty. Captchas are shitty design. CCP has already said they won’t do captchas. Because they are shitty design.
Your idea is bad and you should feel bad. Although that’s normal for you, for a while there it was looking like you were gonna leave your trash on the old forums.
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If I can offer/provide you with 33-66% reduced uptime on ALL botters, for the cost of you solving a simple graphic bot-test once per hour that takes you 5-10s, will not impair you ingame, and takes only a few clicks, can you HTFU and deal with that?
I can but the premise is wrong.
You have put more care factor than anyone else. I give that a valued credit. With that said I won’t be aligned even for the greater good with bots and RMT.
I would rather burn a house down than live with an infestation I can’t remove. Even if its my only dwelling.
So you are willing to spend 5-10s and a few clicks per hour, to wreck bots by 33-66%.
Good.
So am I. I spend more time picking my nose and scratching my ass (not necessarily in that order), than this bot-test takes me per hour.
But what “premise” is wrong here?
The premise that I can’t be trusted and to have to prove I can once per hour. Its rather insulting to me.
Be careful, he might start accusing you of EULA violations because you disagree with his retarded idea.
I’m a big boy and can handle it.
Interesting, and valid.
But.
Remember that one of the rules of EVE is that trust no-one.
This applies to CCP as to player behavior in EVE, as much as it does to us.
Think of it this way.
Its not that you arent trusted, its that botters arent.
5-10s and a few clicks per hour is not much to ask, when the result is 33-66% reduction in bot uptime.
I still ask what protocol should be. Someone reports someone for botting, they give no evidence , but based on something that ccp won’t offer , without even investigating with the accused ,summarily place bans. Then don’t even reply to tickets when you ask for proof. thus provoking the questions by others that maybe you were, when you were not.A witch hunt is just that, when you don’t have a set plan on description, indication, and proposal of action that everyone follows.And sure what does it cause? A few accounts get banned or stop playing? Or others making judgement themselves saying if ccp says he’s a duck then he must be, or they would never have banned him.
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I don’t agree saying that the in game persona applies to me as a real person. If it did all the gankers and pirates…
Its gone far too long in society that the minority dictates to the majority.
Its pretty clear reporting isnt working, nor is CCPs current data/flagging model.
Bots continue to operate for months/years, before discovery and/or punitive action, after which its too late to reverse the damage they have caused to the game.
Hence my bot-test model, as prevention rather than cure.
It’s all algorithmic. I’m not convinced CCP even reads bot reports or gets human eyes on them, especially considering the numbers involved and how many get missed in the sweeps. By what they’ve said, it seems they primarily use server load. Bots cause more server load than real players, by a pretty significant margin.
In my bot-test proposal, everytime you pass the bot-test, there are botters that cant.
By passing the bot-test, you are kicking the botters in the face, everytime.
Each time you pass the bot-test, you are curb-stomping botters with your booted heel.
Take satisfaction in that.
No, by being given a captcha, we (us legitimate players) are being punished because other people are breaking the EULA. Which is why it’s bad game design, which is why CCP said it’s never ever going to happen.
Your idea is bad. Commence feeling bad.
I disagree, because of policy I can’t mention ,my other char. But the bottom line is that I wasn’t even questioned,in game or out. an account that I have been on and off of for years gets banned and by every thing that I’ve seen, I’m just supposed to deal with this because ccp doesn’t make mistakes.Hell, I didn’t even mine daily.
The bot test may have its place I grant that. As I previously stated I won’t be part of it as an inclusive control measure. I’m Alpha atm and surely won’t endure as a paying customer.
The outline I may suggest once CCP Falcon has spoken,will likely exceed 20,000 words and that’s with concision. That in itself will drain me and the idea of having to defend it against semantics,false analogies,bias,and out right deception may just demoralize my entire desire to play any game ever. To think it could all be a total shitpost in light of yesterday. Well…
Something you must have done with that character got caught in the algorithm. Yeah, CCP believes it’s infallible, or at least close enough they are willing to accept some collateral damage. On the other hand, it sounds like Team Security consists of 2 guys and they did a 1,000 account sweep, so considering what else is involved with internet security jobs, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are even looking at complaints, much less investigating them.
How can you guarantee this? I’m more or less with you up to this point.
How invasive would the test be? If it pops up, could she ignore it for 15 minutes or so due to actually being AFK or such (bio, alt-tabbed, phone, actually using autopilot, other problems of humanity)? Will it cover important parts of my screen?
I’m already imagining a pilot derping around a belt in a retriever, when suddenly “bad guys” show up. He goes to nope away, but then the bot-test shows up. A 5-10 second loss in running away means lost retriever.
Same with Auto-piloting, If a pilot wants (though I don’t suggest) to use the AP feature for long distance AFK travel (sammiches don’t make themselves, y’know), and the bot-test pops up… will she still jump? If a pilot decides to take the risk to AP between systems, should he consider the bot-test another risk to his ship? Could she trigger the test early, to avoid a problem? Is the test at random or on a schedule?
Things like these need to be addressed. As stated, I’m with the idea at the macro level. I’m willing to accept a tiny bit of sacrifice if it will thwart those intending to circumvent the rules, but I would see that as much player inconvenience be avoided as possible.
–Policy Analyst Gadget
You arent being “punished” by a 5-10s minigame/hr.
Botters are being punished, and wrecked.