I know that in south korea that they have regulations forcing people to take breaks due to, probably, health and addiction issues but also cynically people playing vidya aren’t working.
Any account with inhuman activity levels should be a dead giveaway as a botter.
All people have to sleep. Most people have IRL obligations.
There are exceptions, but the general purpose of botting, is exactly to run them while you are afk. Many botters only run their bots while sleeping, at work or otherwise afk.
Some of them have started responding to CCP by shouting Cyka blyat at them. Top minds are investigating the potential creation of RL rogue drone hives.
CCP needs to do more to prevent/remedy bots.
When the PIRAT CEO has been botting a Nyx fleet for years before being accidentally discovered and dealt with by players, you know the situation is very dire.
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This has been a long term and serious problem for years and CCP’s response in the last 5 years has been poor. Take this thread for example:
https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/73389/
Sounds familiar, doesn’t it. As long as people use bots to purchase PLEX to buy Omega time accounts, don’t expect any change/action by CCP. Only RMT accounts will be targeted and even then, usually only the most flagrant.
Compare this to a game like PUBG that banned 1.5 million players in their first year. They ban on average 6-13k accounts per day. Meanwhile, CCP brags that their past effort like Unholy Rage nets them 6k or the most recent purge nets then a couple k of accounts.
You go any site that is selling bots for EVE and you can see their claim that any chore you need them to do can be done:missions,market,mining,transport,exploration, ratting. You visit or live in systems where the same player is logged on 23/7. You see fleets of clone fitted ships running missions or sites; laying waste to belts. This has been going on for years and CCP tells us it is illegal and they have an effective action coming SOON.
Well, CCP it is time for action before the game implodes due to bots. You told us back in October to wait for an upcoming announcement and action. 3 months later we are still waiting. Please do the right thing and take effective action to save your game.
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They have a lot more people coming tho. But on the other hand, there would be not so much coming if the bots would ruin their gameplay. 
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They are a problem for the quality of this game that’s for sure. They take the meaning out of iskmaking. What’s the point of struggling to increase your wealth when people can do it without any effort? Also, they cause devauation of ISK and PLEX inflation.
What’s the point pf struggling to increase your wealth when someone are easily receiving big money from parents/lovers?
Salvos Rhoska
Any account with inhuman activity levels should be a dead giveaway as a botter.
All people have to sleep. Most people have IRL obligations.
I assume that you’re not taking into consideration possibility of different persons playing one account.
Mu’ad DiibMu_ad_Diib
A scientist friend of mine once explained to me that the minimum amount of sleep that someone physically needs, from a medical perspective, is four hours. If you get less than this, on a consistent basis, the human body simply doesn’t have enough time for cellular repair and the body’s organs and systems will begin to fail. Having said this, the advice from most scientists is that the human body needs seven to nine hours sleep a night (1).
…and now we’re telling people how much time they should do their desired activities. Sounds like fascism.
Last time i checked it is not even allowed for medical stuff to forcibly give food to patients/prisoners.
Also against the rules, so if they get caught up in the mess - so be it.
Collateral Damage Gadget
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Merely assuming that account sharing much less crime than botting.
I’m not assuming anything of the sort.
If a cop catches a drunk driver and a bank robber in a holiday road stop, does it matter to the severity of the crime?
No. The only thing that matters, is that the law-breakers were caught.
–Judge Gadget is the law
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Well, sometimes i do. Just love to sit down and to assume something for a while. Good times, good times…
Twenty hours a day isn’t inconceivable. For ten years I worked two jobs and lived on four hours of sleep. It wasn’t unusual for me to stay up from Sunday evening until Thursday afternoon at the beginning of those ten years. As long as I stayed active it wasn’t a problem.
Blasting rocks in Eve? No way.
I have no reason to believe some of the people who own bot fleets have jobs. Why bother when you can make a living doing that?
Account sharing is not allowed by TOS/EULA.
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Its allowed under specific circumstances. The ethical basis in medicine is that if a patient is trying to commit suicide by refusing to eat, is they are suffering from a psychiatric disorder and not capable of making decisions for themselves. In a prison, the staff cannot allow a patient to commit suicide, by any means. In these cases a a doctor, through a specific process involving consultation with other professionals, can declare the patient as incapable of making decisions for themselves and they will be force-fed to keep them alive. There are regional exceptions.
Anyways, this is off-topic.
For a day? Sure.
For two days? Really pushing it.
For three days? Almost impossible.
At the very least you suffer serious cognitive impairment at that point.
I tested my limits in my 20s in both gaming and in the military, and 3 days of 2-4hrs per sleep left me an absolute wreck that had to sleep some 20hrs straight afterwards.
Anyways, nobody is saying that someone with such extreme activity levels is an automatic botter to receive an automatic ban if that is sporadic behavior, but I would say that should be a flag for CCP to check those accounts.
Perhaps, but how much of that time would you have been at your PC playing EVE.
I get your point is that you where awake and active, but Im sure you will agree getting 4hrs sleep per night for 10years is not common (as well as harmful to your health, but thats another matter).
I envy your stamina. But I prefer to sleep.
Which returns to the point, that many botters bot while asleep or otherwise afk.
The whole point of botting is that you dont have to be at your PC to do it.
Thats the impetus of my suggestion.
To strike at bots when they are most vulnerable and most active, ie: when the botter is afk.
My bot-tests would severely impair the effective up-time of bots whilst the botter is afk. How that can be implemented so it doesnt inconvenience non-botters can be discussed, but that it would be extremely effective against bot up-time is undeniable.
Says the king of off-topic posting.
Anyways, this is off-topic.
Make a Players Features and Ideas post already, if you have an idea of how to fix botting, suggest it in the correct forum, in it’s own thread. This thread is a tin-hat thread about if CCp supports bots or not, not about your way to fix them.
Make me.
This is an almost 900 post thread and the one in which most discussion on bots and CCP action/options against them is consolidated. My posts and suggestions on bot prevention/behavior are relevant and on-topic as it has evolved. Im also the single most frequent poster, and none of my posts have been redacted as “off-topic”.
If CCP wants to move this thread or my posts somewhere else, that’s up to them, not you.
CCP is not complicit in bots. But there are things they could do to prevent them in the first place, rather than resorting to laborious remedial action, after the fact.
But half of it is you arguing over trivial stuff I’d much rather have more people expressing concern than your crap.You derailed what could’ve been a nice thread.
I’m not stopping anyone from expressing concern.
I certainly have concern regarding bot proliferation.
Go ahead and express yours.
What are your concerns?
PS: My “crap”, as you call it, has received a great deal of support and likes.
PPS: Why do you engrave in the dark?
We here in Eve online and the Eve forums derail more threads than Montreal, Maine and Atlantic Railway derails trains.
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Other MMOs have recently adopted a different strategy since some of them concluded internally,they could not stop the Botting,rmt cycle. They started banning the recipients of the items and currency. Fair? Probably not in the opinion of the affected. The ban lengths vary from a day to week and a few more. It might work to a degree and has stirred their communities to speak of awareness and self policing. Knowing it takes two to make the cycle perpetuate. By admitting they were as guilty has possibly inspired a new wave of thinking.
None,Eve didn’t exist nor did any other mmo.
Nothing to envy. I don’t think I ever considered as stamina. It was a necessity from early on to help support my family. It was only later on when I started drinking coffee did it change. Today 6 hours is normal.
I don’t have anything to support this statement,though it could be surmised it is fact based on what I believe to be good and right.