Had I simply said I agreed you would have likely taken the same path. When I look at it now I see it could have been different. Your obsession with Captcha was the source of the implication.
I wasn’t an insult,merely an observation. You really need to apply critical thinking instead of impulsive responses.
I was and am not willing to be a conveyance for your devices. You put “it” out there. I recognized it and didn’t want to derail the intent by elaboration.
Yes it is and to note the best of the classic debates have taken place in that very same manner. It isn’t a forum if its just one or two,thus it requires input from several or many. You seeing it as an accusation is your own doing. My prompting was a honest one based on my experience. That you are one stubborn sod and it’s not of my concern.
The segue was in fact not my contrivance it was really my unwillingness to be part of one you were about to manufacture. You are rather predictable. Again,to not have the subject matter be misdirected.
You directing absolutes to me will get you no where.
This is all on you. Its like giving a child a 9 piece puzzle and having them go all apeshit because one piece landed on the table upside down. Damn,try and think before you get all pissy.
Any dishonesty is within you. Having an unrealistic expectation. I watched the rambling rant edit in progress and just shook my head wow! Use some self awareness then step back and see what other see. I’d not see you be that way and call it par for course relating to guidelines of discourse.
We have one commonality. I pointed it out,but this isn’t the place or time I am willing to engage on it.
CCP I patiently await the promised report.
Edit: I really wish these forums had another means of communication within this medium to supplement. Like IM’s,Mail,or even a disposable chat. This is a pure ■■■■ transgression compared other forums.
Ok, man. Whatever you say.
Have a nice day!
A reasonable tool against botting is here right now and has been for around 15 years.
A 3rd party software called Punkbuster can be installed along side eve, it checks RAM to see if there is any botting software running, if there is it can be programmed to boot the player off of Eve until the botting software is stopped.
No other solution would be effective.
We dont know that Punkbuster will be effective in detecting/preventing bots in EVE.
Furthermore, its not so simple as clients installing Punkbuster. CCP needs to rent license for it and integrate it to work with EVE.
Lol the topic split/merge from the PC Gamer article thread.
very cunning plan
Well, at least they just didn’t delete one or the other, and you have to admit there is duplication and it does flow - on a negative it removes the article from the spotlight
And can I just take this opportunity to say this thread I started appears to have the most views / posts of any thread on the forum… do I get a medal for that???
Give me some love boys 
This thread has come very close to being wrecked, a dozen times over, for all manner of reasons/attempts.
That the PC Gamer article was merged here, shows this is for the present where the issue of bots is to be discussed.
You did a very good job for navigating this thread past perilous rocks, on perhaps the most important issue facing EVE:
Bots.
What is being done, and what can be done about them.
You mean you don’t know if it will be effective. Someone already asked you if this is the first online game you’ve ever played and I can understand why they asked.
You do not know what you’re talking about here and I think you should be humble and see if you can learn something instead of pretending you know about this.
Theres nothing you can say here, a punkbuster type solution is the answer here. Learn about it and talk to experienced online gamers to get an insight.
Salvos?
Humble ?
GL
As for punkbuster, if integrated right, would be just great, and give me a reason to come back to the game, providing some time to show its efficiency in totally purging the game from all the arseholes ruining it.
Also, I think the entire Eve universe and economy should need a TOTAL reboot, with full wipe of all isks and assets and all, to start again from the ground up.
But that’s just my personal opinion, and probably downright heresy to even remotely think about for the majority of the community, which I think is also a severe mentality problem plaguing this game, the attachment to their ingame avatars/sp/pixels as just way more important than the game itself.
A) Correct. I dont know if renting the Punkbusters system will be effective in EVE, nor the costs involved.
B) Do you?
C) Ive been playing MMOS for over 20yrs. Nobody has played them any longer than I have, because they simply didnt exist before that point.
Yes, I can see it now, punkbuster engineers and Eve devs working on code together to integrate their software’s. 
It is also a good idea because CCP staff wont have to investigate any botting claim, and the people who were once botters can still play without having the unfair advantage.
A) + B) You know the cost of having botters within Eve. if unaddressed it could cost CCP their entire game.
C) if thats true then you should be aware of Punkbuster type software and you should fully endorse it.
It wouldn’t have the result you want. Within a couple months things would end up right back where they are now, as far as wealth distribution and political power. Especially exacerbated by the people most likely to quit being the people who felt they lost the most and have the least to gain by staying, so the middle wealth types that represent the bulk of the playerbase. It would be far more interesting if instead of resetting once, it reset once a year.
Realistically, the assets the bots have already pumped into the EVE economy aren’t removable. It’s a permanent wound on EVE that is never going to heal. However, it’s only one aspect of what makes EVE a dying animal. The EVE economy is broken in a way that won’t be fixed.
B) Are you sure Punkbusters can detect/prevent bots in EVE? Are you sure Punkbusters can be integrated into EVE?
C) In my 20yrs of MMO experience, Ive only seen Punkbusters used in FPS style games, never in a sandbox game like EVE. Frankly, Punbkbusters, afaik, largely dropped off the radar already around 2000.
D) I cant think of one current MMORPG (or past), let alone one with EVEs complexity, that runs Punkbuster system. I checked their current product portfolio. Its all FPS games.
Once every 2 years I reckon, and remove skill injectors/extractors also. It’s just an unnecessary plague.
People would prioritize their skill training according to what they want to to do specifically. So they would need to have the time to reach that if it includes full character sp wipe as well, for things like caps and supercaps. All such things that should be rare encounters ingame anyway, and not simply cyno spammed on every occasion like it currently is …
The reason i quit this game is because there is just so much of everything everywhere, it’s just not immersive anymore, and everything feels cheap as ■■■■, even social interactions and encounters ingame have lost their meaning and become a complete joke in effect, and I would say cheapened down to CoD random match level even.
B) I mentioned earlier, punkbuster wouldnt detect bots in Eve, it checks active RAM on your PC similar to the way anti-virus software does, if it notices a botting program operating on your PC it will send a request to Eve to terminate Evefile.exe.
I would assume that a company offering similar punkbuster services can adapt their software to Eve’s game engine. They seem to have already adapted their software to some popular multiplayer games.
C) The “Punkbuster” ideals can apply to Eve, it seems a logical way to stop botting.
D) You talk as if scanning RAM for botting software is an impossible task. FYI it isnt hard at all. Anti-virus/anti malware companies have been doing this for a long time with no problem.
Perhaps CCP can create their own “Punkbuster” software? they know how their game works so they could hire a couple of extra staff knowledgable in scanning processes in RAM. Yes, I’m 100% behind this “punkbuster” type solution to botting.
I was under the impression that a lot of bots and scripts were homegrown. Find a tutorial somewhere and compile your own. I’m not an expert on these kinds of things, but wouldn’t the solution in anti-cheat software be in blocking the routes rather than blocking software? Like a script moves the cursor by emulating a mouse, so put controls on the mouse drivers that interrupt that. Or a script reads the screen output, so put in a layer that makes the screen appear black to other software (though this would nuke screenshots and video streaming.)
Talking into the wind though. The only thing I can imagine causing CCP to take any action at all is mass unsubs. And even then, I am extremely confident CCP’s not reading threads like these, or if they are, absolutely NOT taking any of it seriously.
I like the way you think, I think with anything like this it must involve cutting it off at the root. I believe any software that can move a mouse cursor without the use of a mouse has a signature which programs like punkbuster can identify. Doing it this way (scanning RAM for bot programs) would also cut down on processing anything from within Eve, the punkbuster process would run separate from Eve and only interact with Eve to close it if a bot software is detected.