So you do not care about the empirical data that would tell you if your explicit claim is true or false.
OK. I think I have an answer to my original question. You have no evidence and you do not care about evidence for your claim.
Consequently, there is no reason to beleive you about PLEX.
Cheers!
For ‘Bots’ owners they are a good thing, but for the rest of the EVE universe they are a bad thing.
Thanks for showing the quality of your metal.
Your inability to withdraw from the subject of PLEX with out a clear objective or proof. Proof not only being in the form of data. Noting data isn’t everything. Has allowed one person with one question to shut you down.
Knowing that was how it would go,I chose to refrain.
Well,you can’t win every fight,in the battle toward the war effort.
Sun Tzu Teaches that when the decision is made to engage in a direct assault,to have won the battle before it is fought.
Maybe next time.
Protip: RMT arent paying CCP for subs or PLEX.
They RMT PLEX, isk, materials, ships, characters etc.
The whole point of RMT is selling CCPs property for cash to their own pockets, not CCPs.
Large part of how they source those ingame for resale for cash, is botting.
Example: A botter earns isk ingame, buys a PLEX off the in-game market, and then an RMT front sells that PLEX for cash (for less cash than CCP charges).
Baba and Zircon:
Show us how you conclude that RMT fronts are not selling PLEX, isk, materials, ships and characters for cash.
Show us how RMT isnt happening.
Show us how botting is not supplying RMT fronts with their sale products.
I have opinions but atm that’s all they are.
Its obvious RMT does sell for real currency. Showing how will need to provide something more than opinion.
I also don’t live or die based on empirical evidence or its supplemental data. It can and is often interpreted to suit the presenter and their view. If I chose to do so,I could show hard facts and turn them into a reason to offer a case where all humans should become extinct. On the opposite another could use the same evidence to show why humans should proliferate beyond 10 billion.
I concurred that the integration of PLEX has had an effect in RMT. That opinion is,that its does promote RMT.
The big reason the RMT people have resources is because of compromised e-mail adresses.
RMTers use these adresses to log into EVE accounts and extract skills and sell them to have ISK they can sell.
The best idea is to use 2 factor authentication for EVE. It can be set so it never ask for authenticator code on your machine so its not a thing that could bother anyone, excluding RMTers of course. Without authenticator code and your machine and compromised email they cant steal your account then.
Oh, NOW that is your view, whereas in your previous post you railed at me with Zircon on how I havent provided links to RMT sales of PLEX (which I explicitly stated I cant link to for obvious reasons), with all kinds of other associated BS accusations.
You’ve been wrecked.
Man up and own it.
I was waiting to read the minutes. I read the part involving RMT and bots. It doesn’t change much for me and my thoughts. Most of what was discussed was already known. They just gave my opinion solidity. Their proposed solution may possibly be a non occurrence to the average player and thats a good thing.
I’ll think on it before going further.
You don’t read well. I accept that.
You dont lose well and argue out of your ass.
We see and accept that.
Use your own brain before opening your mouth.
I shouldnt have to explain the blatantly obvious to you.
Salvos You da man
From the perspective of RMT, PLEX is just another vital commodity, with inexhaustible demand, to sell for cash.
If PLEX didnt exist, all subs would have to be bought from CCP, or licensed GTC sellers.
Since PLEX does exist, botters can farm isk ingame to buy PLEX from players ingame that did buy them with cash from CCP, and then re-sell them via RMT for cash into their own pockets.
What part of that is unclear to bad readers and the brainless?
Kissing my ass, after you tried to ■■■■ on me, will get you nowhere.
This is already an option in EVE. Login to account management, and its right in your face.
Stolen accounts is an issue in EVE, but imo very rare and one in which CCP reacts very quick and forcefully.
As to 2 factor authentication preventing botting or RMT, I dont see the bridge/connection. It doesnt impede botters or RMT, except on the part of stolen accounts, which already can be covered by 2 factor authentication and to concerns of which CCP reacts as a priority.
From CSM Minutes:
Peligro suggests giving some background on the state of account security in 2017. This is brought up due to the huge trend in accounts being compromised. Most RMT occurring now is from stolen accounts. The more common cause is the e-mail address being compromised rather than the account as the credentials being used are valid.
Botting:
Sort wants to address the elephant in the room. Bots. There is no information which CCP can disclose today. Sort asks about the dev blog which was promised. Sort believes this needs to be addressed in some capacity for the sake of appeasing the community. Peligro chimes in saying the situation is unacceptable and he wants to see something more done about it, directly quoting the article which has been a hot topic recently. Rest assured it’s something which Peligro wants to see action on.
The rest is about how botting is much more visible than account hacking.
People should understand that if they visit some shady sites with RMT, they can be potentially infected with stuff that will steal their credentials, or they will be asked to provide some passwords and account names that later will be used to steal what RMTers sold them.
My conclusion is different.
Seeing as the credentials being used are valid, I think this speaks to RMT cycling accounts, rather than rate of stolen accounts.
Anyway, it looks like its a lot easier to RMT now from account, as the skill points are worth a lot.
Someone could also just sell their old accounts to RMTers. With people who played for a long time and left… it could be a big problem.
That is some low effort straw man you got goin there.
Actually, its not even a straw man. Its just you making false claims which can be checked against everything I have said to you here.