adding a fresh server, with no more high sec ganking, is not making eve a themepark, nor does it touch tranquility, at all.
Ok well the quality of thinking around problems on the anti-PvP side has shown itself as completely lacking in any kind of creative thought.
Just say no to dumbed down āChineseā server
Vote for a game where intelligent people actually win by thinking.
There is going to be no functional free market in that proposed setting, the other feature apart from freedom EvE has that other MMOs dont.
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coming in the discussion strong, zero arguments given
ājust say noā
āits bad because its badā
āi am intelligent, you are notā
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Well, after (if) all filthy carebears leave, you will have server with only āintelligent people actually win by thinkingā playing there. Isnāt it a win-win scenario?
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Unfortunately a huge population of the server donāt want to use their brains they only want to chill. You can see this in gate campās if you join one everyone is drunk if you pvp against one they do some really silly things that let you fight out numbered.
Im not sure who you are quoting but its not me. You see, people who actually can think know what Im talking about. You are preaching to the lazy brained and slack jawed.
The arguments are clear: you have literally written them yourself. Wnat an example?
Easy:
You are literally advocating a change which takes what we have and makles it even longer and more tedious for the very people you think are going to flock to this server. You know, the people who are already complaining their skill queues are too long and their research takes too long.
They arent GOING to go the short route, you will bore them out of the game by jump 127.
Oh and you want an argument presented in my post? HOW DOES THE MARKET WORK ON THE NEW STYLE SERVER?
No one seems to either want to answer or understand the question. Not a surprise from someone who is either a troll or far too stupid to work out how to currently go from Amarr to Jita without being ganked and still stay in HS.
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He is crazy if you take direct route its like 14 jumps if you take a slight detour 17 jumps its now decently safe even though low sec.
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Im not sure who you mean by filthy carebears, I dont give a crap if some one has never trained a gun skill.
Im talking about people who seem to think the market will exist if there is such a thing as a 100% safe zone.
It depends what is inside this safe zone tbh.
In the example given: All of HS
Well, I agree that there are many players who are uninterested in conflict, and who will happily grind away. But if thatās what you want, why play a challenging UPvP game whose name literally means Everyone Versus Everyone?
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yea that is silly high sec is still decently profitable enough to not be viable for safety.
If you remove every single ore type except for maybe Pyroxeres which is the cheapest astroid in eve and limit it to lvl 2 missions and no more incursions in high sec then yea sure go full green.
but people want their cake and eat it they want it to be safe and profitable which donāt ever mix.
Why then does the market work in Albion online?
Itās basically the same game concept.
No, it does not change a single pixel of what you have. it is a different server, do you understand that?
There are people allready doing short routes with higher risk on TQ, so why not on a new server?
I do think you are crazy in believing eve could not exist on a seperate server under a different ruleset.
And let me get things straight here:
It is not me coming up with all of this news, it is CCP.
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And that alienates the people who want to make their living in HS
Exactly so do a hybrid model 1.0 is green only + hardly anything to farm so people get bored and choose by them selves to take more riskās and then be fine with the riskās of the rest of high.
If people complain that they get ganked and ask to remove ganking then people can say go live in 1.0 then if you dont like it.
Then they will say but I donāt want to be poor and then they suck it up.
Perfectly safe should = poor
Risk/reward.
I just want to play a space game that entertains me.
Iām okay with non-consensual PvP, Iām ok with ganks, Iām ok with PvEā¦
I donāt see why a new server should be the death of EVE.
All those who cry about that are those who need noobs to explode, and even at one year in youāre still a noob because EVE isnāt an easy game to grasp. Itās so difficult that players need to teach other players and there needs to be two dozen website to wrap your mind around all the concepts and mechanics.
CCP: āA new server will open with different rules and - "
Vets: " Noooo!!! The sky is falling!!!ā
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I think he means TQ requires a critical mass of players for the markets and everything as a whole to remain balanced.
Although the number is probably only 6k players which it should still have even with a new server opening up.
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Do you know what highsec mining actually nets you right now on TQ?
about 40-50mil/hour ā¦ with 3 fully maxed out mining accounts, in an ~2.5 bil investment (1xorca, 2x hulk) running max yield thus max risk fits.
You know how long u can go afk with new belt designs, smaller rocks and residue changes? about 30 seconds before setting up new laser/drone targets
u know i dont really care about mining anymore but reading all that nonsense about it i just felt the need to drop some facts here and there
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Yes, you do understand that the CHANGES, the DIFFERENCES between the two are what we are discussing?
Stop trolling pedantry when it just makes it seem like you are failing to understand on purpose.
Yes, those people are people like me, and if theres no functional market, then what is the point at all, so no, I wouldnt make the transition to a static, uninteresting server with a dead market.
See, and thereās where we differ greatly. I think you are either trolling or stupid to believe that EvE would exist in any recognisable form without a free market and risk. You think Im mentally ill to suggest that those things are what make EvE the game thats more interesting for people who dont like their victories handed to them.
I guess putting effort into something is āoutdated thinkingā to some people.
So? Whats that got to do with your imbecilic advocating of it?
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