In one of the themes an interesting idea appeared during the discussion.
What progression in Eve?
Atm this is all about “awaiting”.
For example: you start to play and you get involved to Eve. You even like it.
You browes ship category in the market and found a ship that you like. Moros.
You are a HUGE time needed. It can be 150-200 days! In 2017 year you need 150-200 days to play with a ship that you like?
Do you really think that people get “feeling of progression” while they are learning Moros?
It is not.
You just wait this days to finaly sit into Moros.
For sure you can actualy. PLAY the game. Killing NPC or do PvP. But all this days you will have NO progression at your current ship. You will drive, for example, thorax for all this days while learning skills for Moros, and thorax wont be better this days.
Of course you can say: “Hey man, dont invest to moros from start! It is stupid!”
And i ask: “Why?”
Is my feeling and preferences stupid?
If I want to drive moros why i need this unnecessary timewall?
My point - Eve never have progression through direct gameplay.
This simultaneously allocated it against the background of other MMOs. And at the same time it is a stopping factor for beginners.
Many people dont want to wait for this crazy time to drive and play what they want and like.
Next thing. Do you feel progression even when you drive moros and keep learning some skills for it?
Very poor. Becusae will never know what it is like to drive Moros without callibration or fuel compensation. These skills are simply required to start driving Moros.
And no, I’m not whining. I have been playing since 2008 and I am able to drive many capitals and almost all sub-capitals.
But I’ve never experienced that my character is progressing. I played, got a fan, and one day I sat on a new ship.
So … Item and skill requirement is just timewall that denied access to some content or playstyles.
What if … remove requirements at all (wait dont burn me).
1 day newbie can drive titan if he wants and use all fit as he wants (or t1 only it is just concept).
But items still get benifits from skills. If you want to now the difference between all5 skills and all0 skills - use EFT. It is really devastating difference so it isnt broken or smth.
Just imagine. You are the newbie. Flying a few weeks and you like it. You saw a beautiful Megathrone in space. And you can drive it right now. It will be totaly uneffective but you start to play just right now as you want to.
While you flying this Megathrone you start to learn skills that Megathrone need. And with every skill done - you feel your progression becuase this directly affects your current gameplay.
The main problem of the current system is the huge time required for studying.
Even in order to learn the battleship and start at least somehow use it, it takes 2 months of focused study.
Allow players to use what they want. At the same time, time progress still remains. you do not want to fly megathrone, which is almost 3 times worse than it could be.
You (CCP) told us that injectors are needed so that newcomers can learn what they like faster.
Has it been 2 years already and how is it going? They are still leaving the game, because see the huge time to achieve their goals and desires.
Removal of requirements wont kill any Eve “coolnes”. It still will be special MMO with special progression.
You still need time to master something.
I repeat: the main point is that players can use what they want. And not in half a year, but now. At the same time, the feeling of their progress is preserved, because the effectiveness of quiet things will grow as you learn the skills.
It still takes a long time to start using the portal on titan effectively.
But your progression on your current game will give much more impact.
There is a big difference between:
learn skills to start fly titan
to improve your effectivity while flying.
I propose an idea, not a final solution. Many things can be discussed, but the main idea is that beginners do not leave Eve when they realize that it takes a very long time to start using what they want.
Sorry for bad english