The purge idea goes a little too far. A yearly event that encouraged PvP could be a worthwhile idea though. And I don’t mean that yule thing we got last year. Events that mix PvE and PvP are pretty bad. It’s like this; should I dress up as a victim or as a murderer today? Fun indeed.
Yeah would also solve the issues about people complaining EVE was dying because it would be dead 
Thankfully we both know your comment was being sarcastic
You sign up a an escort mission to help defend a mining ship (PVE) the route takes you thru another mission where you have to destroy the mining ship (PVP) and (PVE) you must loot as much of that mining ship and change the rare ore to a form that you can carry back in your hull (industry)
Can they mix it up like that or has that been done?
Then all the loot gets thrown out in a massive ejecting oh the humanities!
Or. what if, you just had the balls to go to the places where you can pvp all you want.
Oh, that’s right. You’re too scared.
Isnt this the time when purges occur at CCP?
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Thing is, if you wipe the last 15 years a lot of people who have spent that time amassing what they have and having paid for that progress are likely to get very very annoyed, i’m not restarting from nothing after having played since 2004 lol
Doesn’t matter how much you’re in to a game, you’re still not going to want to start that grind all over again for literally no reason
And how do veterans stop people from enjoying the game? how would it grow in a more healthy direction, you realise that we’ve already seen what happens if you start an EVE server from scratch in more modern times with Serenity, you wouldn’t have a more healthy game you would have people making beelines for the known best goals at any given time, you wouldn’t get anything other than what you have now just with everyone reduced to small ships for a while, people will still have titan alts they would just take longer, the only people who would benefit would be the people running the SP farms who would have insane demand for their products lol
Return for what, the “fun” of flying around in rookie ships mining veldspar for months while you wait for even your core skills to train, there would be next to nothing on the market, there would be no ammo production, no replacement ships, outside of skillbooks the NPC’s don’t really sell anything anymore, everything is player run, wiping that wouldn’t benefit anyone nor would a game in that state encourage people to come back
I’m trying to make the argument that the number of people left would not be enough for CCP to survive financially, and what balance would be affected, they aren’t going to change any of the ships and people will still just beeline for whatever was the most effective again and the blue donut would be almost instantly reborn
Like i said, go and look at what happened on Serenity
A lot of players make that claim but i suspect a lot of them wouldn’t actually start again properly once they realise they are still going to be in the exact same place they were before the reset, people seem to genuinely think that nuking every asset and every skillpoint would in some way put everyone on an even footing, because it wouldn’t
Serenity shows otherwise
If you deem losing the fact that the MMO is a single shard where persistence matters as “nothing”, only if you consider a large chunk of the playerbase as “nothing”, only if you consider their credibility as a company “nothing”, there is a lot for CCP to lose and they can’t afford to have EA levels of rage directed at them
Botting would only increase if you were to wipe like this, because people would rush to get SP farms created to fuel those bots and to make ISK which people would be far more willing to buy on the grey market that from CCP, a company that would have willingly demonstrated they don’t value the time and effort players invested by wiping 15 years of history
The botting wasn’t the reason i was pointing you at serenity, it was the politics, it was pointing out how their null sec ended up being far more of a circlejerk than ours already is, it was that despite it being a brand new server with everyone on “equal footing and balanced” the game still turned in to exactly what we have now and in a much shorter time because people knew where to go, what to grab, what would be useful and where to focus, which is exactly what would happen on TQ if it were reset
hehe nah, in this day and age trying to convince people to pay for a subscription is going to get harder and harder, PLEX sales will make up a fair portion of their current income, but those PLEX still need to come from somewhere, can’t sell 30 days of game time for 2bil when nobody can make 2bil in the first place, the people who don’t want to pay for a sub currently are still not going to want to pay for a sub after a reset and will leave, which means no buyers for those PLEX which means less people buying them which means less income for CCP
No they don’t, alts are already how most people get things done, there is no benefit to having other players help you mine and having to split the resources when you can just multibox and do it yourself, especially seeing as unlike in yesteryear we have proper mining frigates, people can already multibox the co-op content the game has, they won’t suddenly feel the need to play as a group, i mean its cute that you think this would in some way solidify the playerbase when it wouldn’t
I mean, you do realise that even before PLEX people did that right? they paid attention to game developments and made speculative purchases of portions of the market, its how they became trillionaires in the first place, and they would end up doing it again due to being able to predict progression and the needs of players, and because you reset everything you’ll have an even harder time of trying to compete with them again
Through common sense and deductive reasoning, if you wipe away the 15 years of work people spent on the game they are not going to be best pleased, if you suddenly tell that PvE guy who does nothing but run level 4 missions that he has to start again at level 1 missions with only the skills to fly a T1 frigate do you think he is going to be happy and welcome the change of pace? its guaranteed that you’ll annoy far more people than you please, and those people who were pleased won’t remain pleased when they realise that the game is charging straight back to the situation they had before the reset, nobody looking at it in even the slightest objective way would think it was a good idea and that this would end well
Because you will always have people who are on top and people who are on the bottom, that is how everything works, the rich will get rich again and will still be buying things faster than other people, that is just how the game works and always will work and we both know it, yes for a short time there will be the appearance of fairness, but that will quickly fade away once the SP farms reach critical mass and people start being able to earn masses of ISK from things like incursions which quite literally print ISK
Because they wouldn’t be fighting for it for the first time, they would just be retaking what they already had and getting back to the point where they end up with billions in their pockets again, people will expand out back to where they were to try and farm the resources required to regain their foothold
History likes to repeat itself
Those stockpiles can be rebuilt pretty easily, especially once you get back in to things like barges and orca’s, its just a race to the most effective ships, that being said even a fleet of mining BS would work fine, it wouldn’t take as long as you think to start mass producing low end capitals at which point the circle jerk begins anew
With everything being the same its just a race to the end goal and the group that gets there first wins and we end up with the same situation under a different colour, like i said just look at the serenity sov map compared to ours, because thats what will happen
I choked on doritos
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You really think that should be one sentence? I see you use a period at the end, you could use a couple in the middle too.
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Dammit! Again with the doritos!!!
Not workable frankly, probably kill the game, so many would just log off and I would expect a fair proportion to not return.
However, what I would like to see is an event(s) around factions, every toon is in one, so why not have skirmish days in random constellations. This is light on detail cos you would have to be careful not to get the same result of players not logging in, but it could work I think if u get the details right.
Maybe, maybe, frigate fights only and no podding. Might be good to get the alphas/n00bs more involved.
Good idea, that should see most of high-sec not log on for the day.
I don’t see the downside in this.
We purge the game of worthless krabs and cowards who only treat EVE as nothing more than a fancier Farmville game. Once all of them are gone, we’ll have less people crying and whining about ganking, better players sticking around, and eventually the community grows up.
OP’s idea is really dumb. But that’s separate from how good the departure of weakings would be for the game.
Perfect example of the kind of hostility in this game.
Boy you take this video game epeen stuff really seriously. Calm yourself, because people have been playing eve-ville for a long time now. Our money is just as good your money, as well.
Also…
That’s not logical at all. I can’t imagine the crying and whining we would hear if “the worthless cowards” left the game. No one would be there to buy stuff; no one would be there to gank. Just more empty systems.
Finally, it makes you look stupid when you insult people based on the way they play a video game. I don’t treat this game like a job, and I don’t adjust my playstyle because some guy on the forums throws insults around. If I’m not botting or afk’ing, then my playstyle is just as good as yours.
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Its full of people who are mining and ratting and dock up as soon as a nuet shows up in local, while flying around on their alts, looking for something to kill, but unable to find anything to kill because everything docks up off as soon as a nuet shows up in local.
Nobody said it would be “harder” but it won’t magically become easier, the issue is botting would become even more common
Except it would have it, it would just a little while to appear, this is the part you’re missing, nothing will magically be prevented from playing out exactly as it has on TQ, you’re still going to end up back in the same situation we already have, a reset won’t “fix” anything it will just make it so people have to work back to it, but knowing everything we do about the game its even easier to avoid making any mistakes that were made before and just hyper specialise in to what you need to get back to where you were, and with SP farms being what they are you’ll just have people back in titans and caps pretty quickly and then we’re back at square one just on a different server
They weren’t merged, serenity changed hands in terms of chinese publisher, nothing was merged
It won’t though, we can literally train to the point where we can run things like incursions as alphas, at which point you just print ISK, at which point plex is worth buying to sell for ISK, the flip side is that you’ll also end up with a lot more grey market sales as a result
Aurum already existed for those same features, things most people don’t really seem to bother with, the vast majority of PLEX that are consumed currently are paying for subscriptions and MCT’s, skin sales won’t be enough to create a new source of income that will be large enough for CCP to survive on
The cosmetics really aren’t that big of a seller
Thing is, it will also prevent people from buying PLEX, lets say i can buy PLEXfor $20 and get 1bil for them, all the ISK sellers have to do is make it so 500mil costs less than $10 and they already encourage people to buy from them instead of buying PLEX, at which point CCP doesn’t get paid
You realise there is literally no way to prevent people from multiboxing accounts right?
And its not a hassle thats the point, its trivial to run alts to do things, even more so when it comes to industry, you seem unable to accept that your desire to have people cooperate is literally impossible
Again, incursions print ISK, you’ll be able to make boatloads of cash after the reset by being the first person to produce T2 ships and weapons etc, market trading will make you a passive income and if you happen to start selling SP from farms you literally get rich doing nothing, you have a gross misunderstanding of how the game seems to work, and how ridiculously easy it is to make ISK even post reset
A server people have very little reason to want to bother with, as i’ve stated any new instance of the game, reset or new server, suffers from the exact same problem and will reach the exact same endstate, this is not the solution to anything and you need to accept that
Well you’re free to think that but it won’t help, as i’ve said, the exact same scenario plays out on the server regardless and the people who left because they didn’t like how TQ ended up will not return when the new server is going to end up in the exact same state TQ is in, history will repeat itself
Its the exact same scenario and the same issues apply regardless of it being a new server or a wipe of the existing server, it won’t actually change how the new sandbox develops
You mean removing the impossible to remove feature due to it literally being impossible to enforce
A subscription only server is going to be DoA, can’t even hope to sell that to people these days
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