Fix the multiboxing gank problems!

Mass multiboxing is a thing because of input broadcasting.

A few years ago CCP and team security used to go after them with the ban hammers and give updates.

Maybe now they’ve seen that these cheats spend a ton of money on their 20/30/40/50 accounts and banning them wouldn’t be good for the balance sheet?

I’m not even sure that team exists anymore.

No, it’s easier to multi-box with bots than it is with input broadcasting. There is a difference. As we know, bots are very difficult to detect while input broadcasting is very east to spot. Bots are used all over New Eden.

Equity and inclusion can eat a dong.

If you can’t afford more than one account that’s your problem and no one elses.

The average player has more than one account so sucks to suck.

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A form of narciccism. They are the Karens of EVE.

That’s because you don’t have any wrinkle berries

And you don’t have ovaries. I’m not here to judge.

There are several tactics I think would work.
First is to have a scout alt. You can fly around the constellation where you plan to operate for the session and see where it’s dangerous.
Second is to have quick align ship so you hightail when things get hot.
Third is to keep an eye on Local. A multiboxed fleet ought to be easy to spot within the list of names.
Fourth is to fly a ship you don’t mind losing, disposable and minimally fitted for the purpose. No expensive modules and only rigged to do the job.
Fifth, stay away from HiSec as much as possible. I only use the main market and I try not to take the same route back.
Sixth, befriend pilots in LowSec and/or join a group. You’d be surprised how many are willing to help.

I think that’s called being caught with your pants down?

Seems like a radical solution to something I’m not sure is a problem. PLEX is an incentive to play and it being directly tied to Omega time gives those who cannot buy it a means to trade for it.
It would be a shame to punish the whole community for something that can be avoided.

You say to stay away from high sec and that you only use the main market?

The main market is the only dangerous place in high sec. Over 90% of high sec is mostly, if not completely, deserted. When you get away from the trade highways, the number of people in local drops to single digits. I know of regions where local is always at zero.

Though it may mean 1/8 less DPS…I’d replace one of those Neutron Blasters with a neut. Fact is, your stasis webifier probably won’t slow down a small kiting attacker enough for the turret tracking ( which is not particularly amazing…compared with a regular neutron blaster which has around 38 figure ) to catch up. Your last line of defence is then to neut it…which wont affect projectile weapons but will stop him leeching with nosferatu or running his afterburner or MWD and that will slow him down.

My thoughts exactly. I mean…I have an amazing Nightmare with 1500 DPS and 150K EHP and excellent range. But it has only ever been used in a fleet of Nightmares…for station bashing. It is pretty much useless on its own, and at 1.8bn ISK its quite a prize for gankers, especially as Nightmares are quite slow to align.

The vast majority of my ships are cruisers of one sort or another. My Tengu may only have 60% of the DPS of the Nightmare, 850 or so, but that is more than enough, and it can covops cloak, carries neut and stasis and scram, and aligns in just 4.5 seconds. I have a Navy Augoror ( a seemingly puny little ship ) with 100K EHP, two neuts, and can do 730 DPS…all for just 90m ISK. Or an Eagle with basic EHP of 113K…which can ADC to 450K EHP for 10 seconds.

My big battleships…Nightmare, Leshak, etc…all just sit there in dock waiting for a fleet. On their own they are useless and just a gank risk.

Didn’t you claim to own every ship in the game? Some ships are just for fun.

I bought it because it’s a fun ship to fly. I’ve flown it in security missions and I bash the heads of diamond rats with it. I sometimes take it with me just exploring.

No, I said I had all the strategic cruisers…though I have yet to fly the Proteus, still 3 days of training.

I have Nightmare, Leshak, Drekavac, Apocalypse, Rokh, Raven, Tengu, Vedmak, Tornado, Zealot, Navy Augoror, Phantasm, Eagle, Ferox, Prophecy, Navy Harbinger, Guardian, Retribution, Moa, Crucifier, Purifier, ENI, Legion, Loki, Proteus, Typhoon, Anathema, Hecate, Brutix, Hurricane…to name but a few. And multiples of most of these ships…for example I have 3 Tengu, 2 Nightmares, and 4 Zealots…etc etc.

Oh…and 26 Gnosis and 10 Praxis, and all manner of frigates and destroyers.

if you think your “list of ships” should be a flex then i have to say to you : NO ITS NOT ! this is only a tiny hangar … still my hangar is very tiny and i have about 380b worth of ships and i dont have any Supercarrier or Titan ! and actualy only 1 dread and no carrier ! and i never would think i have to flex with this because this is about nothing !

and btw … its also no flex to say you have all Strategic Cruisers :wink: they are very easy to lern… if you wanna try to flex then maybe say you can field all Black Ops with 5 on multiple chars like i could :wink:

You basicaly you have a bigger epeen than her and are rather fond of big willies ?

yeah its big enough ! and whats the problem to like big willies ? i dont see any …

and hey it was fun :slight_smile: they failed to gank my Marshal a few times.

Gankers are the lest problem of multiboxing (since they are few). Everyone is multiboxing these days, miners, industrial players, highsec citadel bashers, nullsec farmers, WH farmers, Pochven farmers, FW farmers, lowsec gatecampers and smartbombers, and who knows who else.

Gankers are just the most visible ones.

And yes. Your suggestion will remove 99% of multiboxing, players would multibox just two at most and multiboxing more than that will be reserved for the whales.

But why would CCCP do this? If there is no multiboxing then noboy buys that extra PLEX ingame, which means the price will drop and which means that less players will buy it by cash. It will also most likely cause many players to quit completely since they refuse to pay cash to play. Multiboxing is simply the CCCP’s golden mine.

Also, as others already wrote - gankers are pretty much forced into multiboxing by the nerfs after nerfs and buffs after buffs of EHP of their victims. Unlike other players whose activities certainly doesn’t require dozen or more pilots and they do it just to profit more.

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Where did I say anything of the sort ? I was simply pointing out that though I don’t have 'every ship in the game ’ ( nor would I want to have )…I do have quite a lot.

But how many of them are gnosis?

Thats the point. CCP is basically addicted to the PLEX2Money scheme. It generates them cash.

Maybe they would already earn a lot more, if EVE would have been designed straight towards non-multoboxing for the last 2 decades and gained a much wider player base due to a much better reputation.
But no one can prove that. I personally would like an EVE online where you can’t (and don’t need to) multibox, with 50.000 or 100.000 real players online instead of 20k with tons of alts. But from the current position, as much as I would like it, I see no way to revert all those past decision. If they would cut down multiboxing now, in the hope to gain more single-account players from a better gaming expierience, at first they would probably lose 50% of their paying customers. At least. And then it’s an open bet if they can survive if the player rates go up again, this time by truly single-account players who are attracted to a then “better” game. Risky risky. I don’t think I could convince my CEO to do that. -_-

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There’s no way to enforce that though. Would you propose to limit accounts per IP address?