And yet here you are whining and crying that the FW players can’t take the first shot. Doesn’t that make FW players trolls by your standard?
Why would you be my ally if you’re not in FW or in my corp or alliance? Why would you be defending me if we don’t know each other or have any relation? Yeah, as if that ever happens enough to matter. As if that stops most FW people from firing on you anyway, right now? Please.
Who knows? You sure don’t. Maybe I just really hate the guy attacking you and don’t care about you as long as I make that asshole die. That’s why the flagging system only considers actions, not intent. Being in the same area as someone is not a hostile action and is not flagged.
So maybe then I see you’re flagged suspect and don’t shoot you.
I am pretty sure the sign doesn’t say that.
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But what you’re demanding here is the ability to shoot first without penalty.
You’re right, they’re not very specific about shooting. Just that they can use deadly force.
Thank you.
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You’re welcome, but you can still be shot and killed, since that’s deadly force.
And there might be a sign somewhere else that says you can be shot.
BTW, if there are multiple Catalysts hovering around the gate, each with a standard gank fit and a single shot loaded in each gun, should that also be flagged? It’s very obvious that the intent is to suicide gank something so why should the potential gank victim be required to hold their fire until fired upon (or lose their ship to CONCORD by shooting first)?
Perhaps, but not on “site”.
The FW discord is more or less balanced between warzones. Only Caldari is under-represented and we will work on that.
And with 600 people in the Discord, I hope we are slightly more than “self important band of win traders”.
The aim is also to avoid repeating the same discussions ever and ever. Suspect timer in FW plexes has been discussed a lot of times in this forum or Reddit.
If we want changes, we need documents, votes, proposals discussed and fine tuned.
So 
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Suicide-ganking and FACTION WARFARE are two entirely different things. Stop trying to force melitia people to become pirates.
And no.
But activating a gate or warping to a FW-Beacon are both actions that can give you a warning before you do them, just like taking loot from a wreck or jetcan.
Pirates are going to pirate. FW isn’t about being a pirate. You can be a pirate in FW, and you should be able to ENJOY FW without being a pirate. This is about enjoyment, you know, because its a game. And I’d enjoy playing it with my friends, and there’s no reason to not flag someone suspect for entering a FW-site in this game.
Stop trying to force gank victims to become pirates.
The simple fact here is that the flagging system does not consider intent, only hostile actions matter. And being in the same area as someone is not a hostile action, no matter how obvious you think their intent is. Militia players can either shoot first and take the sec hit just like anyone else would, or they can wait until fired upon if sec status is more important than maximizing their chances of winning. No special snowflake exceptions just because you don’t like playing by the same rules as everyone else.
But activating a gate or warping to a FW-Beacon are both actions that can give you a warning before you do them, just like taking loot from a wreck or jetcan.
Hitting “approach” on a wreck that isn’t yours is also an action that can give you a warning if CCP wished it to. The fact that it is possible to flag an action does not mean that it should be done.
A hauler in highsec practices avoidance. A FW person is trying to fight a war because they want to shoot things, and often when people sign up for FW as new players they don’t know that its going to invovle them becoming pirates too.
Merim Ryskin,
Your arguments are literally non-nonsensical.
What does it hurt you at all being flagged suspect going into a FW-site?
Stop trying to draw false comparisons and tell me how it hurts you.
Also, it’s 100% realistic from a lore point of view. In the real world we have rules of engagement that often prohibit preemptive strikes on targets that appear to have hostile intent, even rules that put our soldiers at a disadvantage by making them hold their fire until fired upon. Same thing with FW. You can either be the honorable soldier and refuse to fire on a neutral ship until you are fired upon, or you can get your hands dirty and Do What Must Be Done by shooting first even if means being labeled a war criminal for your actions.
It hurts me to listen to people like you whining and crying because you don’t get special snowflake exceptions to the rules that everyone else has to follow.