that’s good ! the catalyst meta has to stop , more expensive ship = Is it really worth it for you then ? It’s like you’re so starved of PvP in this game that you resort to ganking miners without a reason to gank them other than they are easy target to gank. No war. No market flipping. No sector control. Just pure hungry gank for starved PvPers cause CCP can’t seem to be able to properly balance where the PvP should take place.
High Sec PvP is by far the place where it sees the most ganks, when it should be the safest.
My point is they can’t gank exhumers for salt as regularly. With the added tank, literally between 4 and 8 times as much EHP, it’s much more difficult for gankers to regularly target exhumers. With the added costs, fewer gankers are going to be doing it.
No one bling fits an orca because it just makes you MORE of a target and even then it doesn’t take 40.
Again, any active miners who put in active effort are FINE, the only ones affected are the ones CCP is specifically aiming for and for good reason. Less bots, less nameless alts, les massive grinding that fcks up the economy for normal players.
I agree 100% on the first bit but if someone states that ships should be able to fend of attackers “until concord arrives” then what they are saying is “I should live regardless of what happens and not through my own actions”.
You don’t know how mining works. Your opinion doesn’t matter in this entire thread. Also, I have 3 accounts and this isn’t about me, it’s about the health of the game. But go grief more new bros so the game dies faster.
You mean mining laser upgrade slots? Because thats what goes in the lows on barges and exhumers. Those mids they removed where for tackle not tank.
Nevermind that for every shield booster the orca runs thats one less mining booster. Orcas won’t be boosting shields, hell Orcas won’t be boosting anything what with the price tag and the self tackling required to do it. But hey, pyfa says this is a good thing right?
Currently, there’s no way to fit barges to mine efficiently and withstand a griefing attack. No one is asking for complete safety, just some safety. Easily ganking miners isn’t a god given right. Skillful ganking miners should be a god given right though. Orcas and Rorquals are popular not because they mine to much (well, the Rorqual does mine too much and the nerf is fine) but because they are the ONLY ships that have a tank and teeth. Give mining barges teeth and tank and we’ll be in a place where both the miner AND the ganker have risk v reward calculations.
I’ll say it again, easily ganking miners isn’t a god given right. I’m sorry if it means you have to learn to PVP, but you’ll be happier when you do. I’m not even a full time miner, just have played this game for 15 years and know a thing or two.
So, mining fleets should now have a bunch of barges and 1 booster (like PVP fleets). How many targets can your booster lock? It’s less than you have in your mining fleet. Will the booster pre-lock targets, yes. But there are more targets to kill than he can lock. OMG, you might shoot a target that is prelocked and fail your gank. That’s really terrible. We should change the game so it’s easier for you to shoot defenseless targets.
Set standing to the obvious groups, don’t be afk, run Dscan, don’t be afk, don’t mine in busy or obvious systems, don’t be afk, have local window detached so you can always see the obvious culprits, don’t be afk, make sure your overview isn’t a mess so you will see gankers warping in, don’t be afk, actually use 10 minutes to figure out how to actually fit/tank your ships, don’t be afk, run shield links on the orca, don’t be afk, pretarget with your orca and be ready to run your remote shield reps, don’t be afk, perhaps bring an alt or better yet a newbie and put them in a Griffin, running “patrol”, don’t be afk, mine in a dead end system and park a scout next door so you can see incoming gankers, don’t be afk, don’t be afk, don’t be afk.
LOL, I don’t do anything AFK, or play in HS. You want to be able to easily gank HS miners. That’s bad for a game that relies on HS mining. In HS you HAVE to rely on Concord for support. So it needs to be a feasible support platform. Let people that like HS do HS things. If you want to PVP, go to lowsec or null or get good at ganking. I swear to god, it’s easier living in null than in HS. And that’s a problem when HS systems are needed for minerals. The poor bastards that agree to mine in HS need a buff or a change to game mechanics to keep parasites from wrecking production.
Are you sure? I saw some idiotic fit afk grind bot ishtar loss there, mr Fraternity.
Do you agree that if miners would put in more active effort that their safety would increase? And that, as it stands, the vast majority of them ARE afk and are entirely clueless and effortless?
LOL, no they don’t. If you think mining is safe you’ve not done much mining. I’m sorry you are clearly attached to being able to easily kill targets. Maybe you should run missions if you can’t fight actual combat ships? In 15 years I went on three combat deployments, beat cancer, and retrained myself for a post combat life. How have you been?
I don’t know if you know this, but I’m not the whole of FRT. I’m okay with AFK folks getting dunked. We have folks that jump to the beacon in 4-H on the regular that don’t know it’s perma camped by cloakies. I can’t and don’t want to help stupid. But I think people actively playing should have a fair shot in a fight that they are forced into by nature of where resources are located at.
You’re in Frat for a reason though and I somehow doubt it’s because of the cool vistas.
100% agreement, the problem is ofc that the vast majority of the miners (and especially the alt ones) are NOT actively playing and do NOT put in any active brain effort, which is why they are having issues.
Just like with the mining changes about the concept of Waste. The amount of people who think this waste affects their direct yield and thus, without thinking or checking, start raging on the forums is both terrible as hilarious. They’re clueless and unless something is explained and force fed to them in memes they won’t get it.
Miners are, almost by default, low effort players. If they weren’t they’d not be mining. Exceptions exist.