I think at this point he is fully aware he is wrong, he messed up and that none of his arguments hold true. He just denies and ignores anything and everything for the sake of it. Probably in a desperate attempt to save face. He messed up. He knows it. We know it. Everyone else reading this knows it.
This is about one single thing now: him trying to act as if he didn’t mess up, to pretend he is in the right, to save face, or however else one might want to express it.
There is nothing really here to add anymore as clearly he is too stubborn to admit his failure here and just throw out senseless expectations in a demagogue fashion just to use it as a disguise:
A senseless straw man with white knighting as an additional flavor.
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It is simple common sense. (Not so common these days I’m afraid.)
But really as written above this is only about one thing at this point:
That’s all. He can’t admit his incompetence and blames other for his own flaws.
He clearly doesn’t argue in good faith, nor even argue, just desperately trying to save face, and clearly fail at that as the facts are not on his side.
The US legal system is just one of the legal systems that CCP has to take into account here, and that is the case with companies that offer games internationally.
I’m not wrong, because this is not about right or wrong, but about an official definition of a game mechanic, and that has been overdue for decades. I don’t know what your motivation is here, and it’s not important, but it’s not about whether I’m right or wrong, but rather a grey area is being deliberately created by the game manufacturer in relation to its players.
That’s what it’s about, not about technical details of the game mechanics, but about a clear statement and definition from the manufacturer. You can also discuss things with me here with 20 accounts, wrong remains wrong and right remains right. That has nothing to do with that. This is about a clear definition of a game mechanic that the manufacturer has not commented on precisely for decades, and if 100 other players write to me and say you’re incompetent, that doesn’t change that fact.
Good question: Do you? Because nobody here taken anything in this thread personally, except you, who even expressed this feeling (in a projected manner).
No, I don’t actually feel attacked, I’m just expressing my point of view here. You want to take this on a personal level, but I would really just like an official and public statement from CCP. Beyond that, I’m writing that this is about a discussion. Let’s keep this casual, ok?
Then perhaps stop trying to derail the subject to personal matters in a passive-aggressive style. Your question was answered many times and you keep acting as if that is not the case. Not to disappoint you but CCP won’t personally address you here, hand down an official statement custom tailored to you personally and so on.
As explained the game works as is and as expressed and anything that is not forbidden (declared an exploit) is legal gameplay. It really is not a difficult concept. If you’ve been genuine you would already recognize this. The fact you reject this countless times is because you have an agenda behind you as a motive, us pointing that out is not a personal attack, just revealing your true intentions. Nothing personal.
What agenda would that be, please? I’m really interested in that. I’m a simple player of an online game who has no economic or questionable interests here. The fact that three of you are trying to silence me by personally discrediting me on an issue that has already been addressed to CCP several times for clarification makes me suspect that you have an agenda here that you don’t want to reveal.
I’m not going to further explain that to you. Go back and use your Big Boy reading skills to try and understand the point you completely missed.
Yes, you are.
If you were able to understand the point above, you’d understand why they don’t need to. CCP is under no obligation to validate your existence.
And literally the only person who see this as a grey area is you. Everyone else has it figured out long ago. CCP is under no obligation to explain to you what you’re allowed to do, it’s up to you to figure that out on your own.
Which is completely unnecessary to anyone with a milligram of basic sense.
What is this stupidity supposed to mean? I get that you have such a weak argument that you’d try to use alts to prop yourself up, but no one else thinks like that. Try not to project your own failings on others.
And guess what, you’ve been wrong since the beginning. The only person unable to see that is you.
The don’t need to comment on it. 20 years of this, and you’re the only one that didn’t figure it out, so the problem is you, not CCP.
If everyone around you is an assho@e, they are not the problem.
Again, stop projecting your psychological issues onto others. The only one here with an agenda is you, you have clearly stated this, and look completely stupid for trying to deflect now.
You do that to yourself so no need for anyone to do that nor anyone tries to do that.
Nobody does that either stop being a drama queen. Demagogy just shows your agenda and true intentions.
We are going in circles. CCP expressed itself over the decades, the fact it did not declare this an exploit despite they are aware of it is the expression you are asking for, it is their official statement.
Just like they do not specify that undocking from an NPC station in a rookie ship is legal gameplay, it simply is until they specifically state it isn’t.
This is basic common sense. We all (including you yourself) know this and that you refuse admitting it because then you would have to admit what people already see, how silly your argument is. You keep digging yourself deeper into this unwinnable position with every post.
Why? Because you don’t have the capability, decency, courage, whatever, to admit you’ve been asking for a silly thing that makes zero sense.
No, why should I stop posting just because I’m personally attacked by several players here? With all the effort and energy you’ve invested in silencing me, I’m even more interested in this discussion. I just don’t understand why it’s so important to you to defend CCP when it’s just about an official statement.
I’m not even accusing CCP of anything, I just want this problem to be clarified and people are trying to tear me to pieces and accuse me of incompetence, personal problems and who knows what else. Well, now I’m even more interested in why I’m being criticized so heavily when it’s about a simple question. It’s nothing personal, is it for you? Just asking.
This is just a simple question in an online game. Do you think you’re exaggerating a bit by attacking another player like this when it’s just about clarifying a game mechanic? I’ll stay nice and objective here, but insulting me is already off topic. You understand that, right?
Exactly, you are the only one bringing this up all the time, and do so only for one reason: to cover the subject and use this straw man (demagogy) instead. It won’t fool anyone but showcases your intentions even more so despite what you think you achieve the opposite effect in those reading this.
And no CCP will not come here to offer you a personalized statement just for you, you are not important to warrant such. Nothing personal.
Oh and again: CCP already made a statement, not in words, but in actions. It is not an exploit.
No, that passed when your question was answered. Then you shifted your goalposts when you didn’t get the answer you wanted, and shifted them again when that didn’t work.
You’re using every single critical thinking error in the textbook, just because you cannot admit you’re wrong, you cannot stand to be wrong, and you cannot allow others to have the last word. Textbook f*cking sociopathy, but I only took a few semesters.
No, I wouldn’t exactly consider myself a demagogue, I’m not a politician and I don’t represent any political interests here. I don’t think you’re really in a position to judge what CCP can or can’t do, what CCP wants to do or doesn’t want to do. Unless you have a different relationship to CCP than an EvE Online player. Of course, I can’t judge what your relationship to EvE is.
I won’t let myself be silenced just because you want me to, if that’s the question.
It has nothing to do with politics, political demagogy is just one type of it, as with anything it can be used in different contexts:
the action or fact of winning support by exciting the emotions of ordinary people rather than by having good or morally right ideas
In other words appealing to feelings, especially parading as a victim (being personally attacked) rather than addressing the subject itself (especially if not right about the subject).
You confuse something, I never said you should stay silent, I wrote you got your answer yet still you keep repeating the same question despite it is not even making sense and is a silly thing to ask in the first place.
I may be wrong (someone will surely correct me, if so), but didn’t there used to be something in the TOS/EULA which said that legal disputes regarding the game had to be settled using Icelandic law in Icelandic courts?
Ah, found it.
EULA: “The EULA, and the rights and obligations of the parties hereto, shall be governed and construed by and in accordance with the laws of the Republic of Iceland. The EULA shall not be governed by the United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods.”
Nor, one presumes, the much-lauded constitutions of the UK and USA.
Our OP might need to bone up on Icelandic contract law…
